Deaf audiences wouldn't hear the 'canon' go off anyway.
That was a cheap shot, but I couldn't resist.
That was a cheap shot, but I couldn't resist.
ST6 TUC
- Thread starter Wingsley
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I do not understand how deleting a laboratory scene would in any way spoil the plot. Sulu's log entry mentioned his gaseous anomaly mission. If Enterprise-A were doing the same thing (even occasionally) then the lab scene would simply have confirmed that more than one Federation starship was performing this activity.
I heard it was a last minute chnge and it was supposed to be the excelsior that fire the homing torpedo. But shatner refused to let sulu save the day. Though goodness knows.
Nope. The unrevised 5th draft of the script, dated December 28, 1990, has Enterprise firing the homing torpedo.
Aha. George Takei camp propaganda then.
I thought those were pretty subtle and in-character bits of humor, the latter much more of a semi-serious comment and the former a good expression of how Spock had changed and become more comfortable with himself and his emotions and relationships.
That is how I always took it as well. I thought the humor in this film, though subtle, was actually enjoyable and well done, as well as keeping in with the characters.
Mainly, it would've placed gigantic, flashing neon lights around the fact that those sensors were going to be used later in the film that the audience would've spotted a mile away -- massive telegraphing/lampshading, basically. Cutting that scene was a wise move.
A bit like sulus opening log entry would have been.
I don't care why they had it on board just as long as they shoved one up Chang's tailpipe. I usually don't understand any of the Stark Trek technobabble. Seems like in various incarnations of Star Trek they're always screwed, then somebody spits out some last minute solution that I don't understand at all, I take their word for it that they know what they're talking about, it works and I leave with a smile on my face. At least this one made some kind of sense to me, even as an 11 year old. Something about tracking gaseous whatchamacallits, a tailpipe, it homes in and blows the guy up. Good enough for me. I didn't need a tour of the laboratory earlier in the film to believe the crew of the Enterprise could pull some last minute miracle solution out of their butts. They could have said "Reverse the polarity on the flux capacitor and engage the caterpillar drive" for all I cared. It was a fun time at the movie theater.
That's usually when trek gets accused of deus ex machina, but I know what you mean. I am really only replying though because you deliberately reference three other technobabble macguffins from three separate franchises! Nice job.
Given that the crew was running out of precious time and Valeris wasn't just going to volunteer the information, what else could they do? they had to force it out of her. Being the member of a historically disadvantaged group (females) doesn't mean that Valeris should have been treated with kid gloves.
The real-life reason? No money in the budget.
I dunno...post for phasers should be cheaper than torpedoes. I think it's more to do with meyers maritime sensibilities.
TUC is a movie that was made on the tightest of budgets, was canceled once and was very nearly on the brink of death on at least one other occasion. There are only 81 effects shots in the entire movie (and it only has that many because Meyer begged and pleaded with Stanley Jaffe for an extra two and a half million bucks on top of the $27.5 that Paramount was willing to spend; as originally budgeted I think the movie was set to have only 50 VFX shots). It's a classic case of doing a lot with very little.
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Does the enterprise ever fire phasers in the movies? I want to say wrath of Khan...but I have this feeling that was just the reliant.
There's the combo torpedo-phaser-torpedo that blows off Reliant's port nacelle as well.
They needed to save 54 seconds of run time.
They cut the scene where it is established Enterprise was indeed carrying the equipment........
GORKON
Your research laboratory is most
impressive...
KIRK
Starfleet's been charting and
cataloging planetary atmospheres.
All vessels are equipped with
chemical analytic sensors...
GORKON
This cannot be easy for you,
Captain...
(off the look)
I would feel awkward if I had to
give you a tour of OUR vessel...
The man's courtesy makes Kirk feel guilty...
KIRK
Would you care to go topside?
CHANG
Very much.
CHEKOV
(pulling Kirk aside)
Captain, you're not going to show
them the bridge??
KIRK
(clenched teeth)
Full diplomatic courtesy, Mr.
Chekov...
The party passes Uhura and a YOUNGER CREWMAN.
YOUNGER CREWMAN
Would you want your daughter to
marry one?
THAT WAS JUST BEFORE THE DINNER SCENE.
They cut the scene where it is established Enterprise was indeed carrying the equipment........
GORKON
Your research laboratory is most
impressive...
KIRK
Starfleet's been charting and
cataloging planetary atmospheres.
All vessels are equipped with
chemical analytic sensors...
GORKON
This cannot be easy for you,
Captain...
(off the look)
I would feel awkward if I had to
give you a tour of OUR vessel...
The man's courtesy makes Kirk feel guilty...
KIRK
Would you care to go topside?
CHANG
Very much.
CHEKOV
(pulling Kirk aside)
Captain, you're not going to show
them the bridge??
KIRK
(clenched teeth)
Full diplomatic courtesy, Mr.
Chekov...
The party passes Uhura and a YOUNGER CREWMAN.
YOUNGER CREWMAN
Would you want your daughter to
marry one?
THAT WAS JUST BEFORE THE DINNER SCENE.
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