So if memory serves then, Khan is the only time the ship fires phasers on the big screen? A torpedo was used in three I think...so basically, the Klingon ships are the guest stars stealing all of Enterprises lines and chewing up the scenery.
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So if memory serves then, Khan is the only time the ship fires phasers on the big screen? A torpedo was used in three I think...so basically, the Klingon ships are the guest stars stealing all of Enterprises lines and chewing up the scenery.
Maybe Kirk got a bit gun-shy about firing phasers after the wormhole mishap in TMP. 
The Enterprise fires her phasers at Reliant several times in the movie, after taking down her shields, destroying her nacelle, then attacking the bridge directly.
Torpedoes only in 3, 5 and 6.
Oh, even Doohan and Kelley were still in their fifties at that point, though just barely.
It could be that before it went into mass production, the technology had already been rendered obsolete.
It's possible that the exhaust vulnerability that the Enterprise crew was unavoidable, and since the cloaked ship had to have its shields down it was also vulnerable, so that in the end it was more tactically advantageous to have uncloaked but shielded ships than cloaked but unshielded ones.
It could also be that by the time they solved that problem, the Federation had already developed sensor technology capable of detecting ships using this prototype technology.
Plus, with the Khitomer Accords in palce, perhaps the Klingons invested less in military development, thereby letting the project go into mothballs. Heck, a certain level of deinvestment might even have been a part of the terms of the treaty, or it might have been done as a goodwill gesture.
Yeah, I really loved what TUC did with Kirk's previous experience with the Klingons, but unfortunately the build-up provided by previous movies wasn't great.
When watching either TSFS or TUC, I like to pretend that Kirk had a great relationship with David in between TWoK and TSFS, even if that isn't supported by the on-screen evidence; it makes the movies that much better.
According to George Takei's autobiography, To The Stars, in the original script it was the Excelsior that shot down Chang's ship in the end, but Shatner requested that it be rewritten because Captain Kirk shouldn't need anybody else to come rescue him.
Takei probably isn't the most objective of sources on William Shatner, but it does sound quite plausible. In any event, it's a shame the Excelsior didn't get to fire that shot; it would have been an awesome way to show how even as the Enterprise-A is about to be decommissioned, the adventure lives on through its former crewmembers.
I already debunked this earlier in the thread. The unrevised fifth draft of the script has the Enterprise firing the torpedo. Takei's comment is his usual historical revisionism, coated in Shat-hate.
Ah right, thanks for pointing that out. I thought I'd checked if that'd been mentioned, but I guess I was a bit too hasty.
We don't know anything about what happened between Kirk and Carol Marcus prior to The Wrath of Khan. It could very well be that he did have a relationship with David until whatever happened that destroyed his relationship with Carol and she asked him to stay away. But even if he didn't have a relationship with David, if he held his baby just one time, it would be enough. Speaking from experience, that moment when you hold your child -- it changes you. In an instant, it changes everything.
A truism we also see in later Treks...Rikers ersatz son, and Picard with Jason Vigo. Even though these turned out to be false, it was enough to make these characters go to extraordinairy lengths. Then look at Ben and Jake, and Ben and Joseph....the only father letting down the side is Worf, who makes Enabran Tain look like father of the year comparatively.
