She's a pilot. Bit of a daredevil. Served in the war. Has PTSD. Would like to be in a landing party.
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Love her. One of the most entertaining to watch. So she doesn't get the love stories. It's all good.Astounding character development right there.
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Next to Pike and M'Benga, she's my favorite. Keep them going
The annoying thing is that almost all of what you listed was just told to us about her. None of it was actually shown. I know they could do more with her if they actually wanted to, but her character simply gets overshadowed by everyone else.
No, we see her pilot and the joy she has in doing it. We see her take risks as a pilot. We watch as her past war experiences manifest as PTSD. They have her show excitement at being in a landing party and then her disappointment as it’s taken away. A fair amount of showing rather than telling.
I’m just describing what happened in the episodes. You said it was all tell and I was providing examples of how it was show.
It's kind of funny how the Kelvin movies implied that Kelvin Kirk, without his dad, had Kelvin Pike be a surrogate father to mentor him. Now this show reveals that Kirk's dad wasn't in his life much anyway despite being alive due to various postings (honestly this was implied as far back as TOS with the whole Tarsus IV thing) and Pike ends up being a mentor to Kirk anyway (admittedly this latter is a huge jump from Menagerie's "We met when he was promoted to fleet captain")
Yeah, Sulu didn't get that level of Character development until STIV:TVHAstounding character development right there.
It's the idea of needing someone to challenge you. Sam observes that Jim always seemed to live up to Dad's expectations while Sam seemed to struggle. It isn't just the mentorship, but challenging someone to do better.
I think she also got to be racist in that one episode.
Seriously. At least Chapel and M'Benga distrusted the Klingon turncoat for legitimate personal reasons. She was just racist.
They were making her the analogous character to Styles, however awkward that was. Was this where it was stated that she fought in the war and has PTSD? If so, then that was more plot device than character development.
I believe Ortegas walked out on that Klingon ambassador and mockingly repeated Klingon propaganda she heard in the war, implying she did fight and got PTSD from it.
As for the Styles thing, it'd be interesting if future episodes play up some conflict between Spock and Ortegas to show how this could've happened in that timeline, but this probably won't happen.
She's been identified as a "war hero" by a couple of characters. She also mentions it in "Under the Cloak of War". In the same episode she clearly has a reaction to Dak'Rah, a notorious Klingon from the war.
Plot devices often develop a character.
But my question was if the idea of her being in the war and suffering from PTSD (which we’ve never actually seen her suffering from) was from an episode where they artificially made her into a character based on another character for plot reasons.
And I answered. It was a different episode.
Not everyone who goes to war gets PTSD. She doesn't like Klingons, but that doesn't mean her experiences caused a disorder.
My only issue with Ortegas being a war hero is that Enterprise was supposed to have been on the other side of the quadrant during the war.
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