Currently watching society, yes. Currently working with people, yes. This is not a moral judgment. Just an observation.
Spoilers ST Picard - Starships and Technology Season Two Discussion
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I guess I was raised with different values and strive for better; no matter what subject matter it may be.
My observation is that mediocrity slowly eats away at the soul / moral fiber of a person.
People get complacent. You, as a individual and part of society, should strive for better, to want more, to push harder, farther, faster.
Otherwise things won't advance.
All our technological advances, all our societal advances, wasn't won/earned without hardwork to advance ourselves.
Somebody must've strived for more so that we can invent, create, change to do better, get farther, be more efficient.
Just "Settling for Mediocrity" is just being plain lazy IMO.
Fascinating. No where did I state my value on the subject.
You believe that New Heights aren't rewarded, only Mediocrity is.
I find that hard to believe given how competitive our society is.
In the tech world, Mediocrity loses you sales. Only Advances rewards your companies with more sales.
That's not a value statement.
I noticed, it's your observation.
But you should want more, strive for more.
Settling for Mediocrity feels so lame.
Who said I didn't? I've made zero comments on my personal values.
Then why did you bring up mediocrity to begin with?
Because it is what I see in Trek. Not heights but average. Trek doesn't seek heights.
I guess that's your perception, we'll have to agree to disagree.
What are the heights of current Trek?
ST: Prodigy, ST: Lower Decks, ST: Picard, ST: Discovery.
How so? They are entertaining, very much so. But heights? Groundbreaking, impacting society or the streaming world?
Even I would not equate current Trek's efforts to heights as in Trek's past. It is very well done but not heights.
Was every episode of TNG "Ground Breaking, Impacting Society at the time, changing the landscape of TV?"
No, obviously not. Some episodes were "Ground Breaking", a few episodes "Impacted Society" at that time.
Some episodes changed the landscape of their Televised medium.
Stamets Male Couple representation being part of the norm is not "Ground Breaking" for Star Trek?
Adira & Grey being the first Non-Binary Trans representation on Star Trek isn't "Ground Breaking?".
Michale Burnham being the First Black Female Captain isn't Ground Breaking?
Yes there are other issues with Discovery, but that's for a different conversation.
Starting Star Trek with Michael Burnham being a disgraced StarFleet Officer who started a War that killed many people on both sides and had to regain UFP / StarFleets trust was a very BOLD story telling move.
Star Trek had never had a massive Time Jump as part of it's franchise until Discovery.
Star Trek Discovery Season 2 became most popular Streaming Show in the world at that time.
Star Trek technology still influential after over 50 years
Obviously. But I would not equate that in modern Trek.
Not by a long shot.
You might be closer there.
No, I would say not. Unless it's as a lead and even then I'm skeptical.
It was but it isn't heights. It's just well done. It was bold, and largely ineffective as Burnham is not regarded well.
That you link to Trek tech being influential after 50 years proves my point. Current Trek isn't pushing tech.
Michael Burnham is the lead of DISCO, it's clear as day.
Everything revolves around her, for good or bad.
Some people might not like Burnham, but you're not one of them, I like her as well. We're part of the crew that watches DISCO as it debuts.
That's because the technologists behind the show are incredibly weak or don't care to push the boundaries of tech.
Take your pick as to which one it is. End result is the same.
They are deliberately holding back or wanted to reign back the technology.
And new Ground Breaking Technology isn't always so obvious / apparent. Society does hit plateaus for a while before new Ground Breaking Tech changes the World/Galaxy/Universe.
And alot of "Ground Breaking Technology" is beneath the surface and isn't some shiny new thing for you to hold / fondle.
Yes, but I was asking if lead status impacted first female black captain. If not, then no she is not.
That's irrelevant. This is not about personal like or dislike.
Ok. I do not see groundbreaking in Trek currently, period.
It seems to for this show. No other Star Trek broke the "Ensemble Show" setup other than DISCO.
DISCO was the first to break the "Ensemble Show" design and have the show revolve around one character.
While having a show revolve around one character is common in other shows, in Star Trek, it never was until DISCO changed the formula.
That allowed ST:Picard to become it's own show and have the show revolve around JLP.
Then what is it about? Are you worried about other members of the larger Trek community?
Fair enough, that's where we'll agree to disagree.
Fair. Not groundbreaking but new, I'll grant.
Impact.
What technological new ground is current Trek doing that makes it groundbreaking and new?
Programmable Matter is a game changer along with the minaturization of said Programmable Matter.
It took me a while to figure out internal Head Canon on how it could work in a realistic IRL fashion.
How does everybody in the 32nd century afford all the energy for floating ___ everything, when there was supposed to be energy scarcity thanks to "The Burn".
AI becoming common place in the 32nd century and not Hostile / Skynet like as in most other Sci-Fi genre movies.
Personal Transporters are so common that it affects the design of everyday architecture.
Star Trek coming back from a long hiatus of not being on TV.
Having more & more Star Trek TV shows so that we always have new Star Trek every freaking week is amazing as a fan.
Star Trek having new shows so that it can gather more fans and get them to watch current & past shows is a good thing IMO.
That opens doors for the next generation to come aboard and learn / enjoy more of Star Trek.
Star Trek won't die with our generation, but be passed down to the next.
