Certainly but there is purpose behind the sadness.
Spoilers ST Picard - Starships and Technology Season Two Discussion
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That Picard is a depressing series? I hope not.
Sadness =/= depression. There is a difference and pain is always a useful teacher in times of trouble. Otherwise, the Kobayashi Maru is a lesson in Starfleet sadism.
Sure sadness is one of the symptoms of depression and one is generally short term while the other is long term. Still doesn't change the idea that Sulu's and Uhura's fate were like the other ships. Then again, maybe they both pulled a Janeway and returned to tell the tale and were promoted to admirals.
Perhaps. Perhaps not. The nature of their loss would inform that more than just being sad.Sure sadness is one of the symptoms of depression and one is generally short term while the other is long term. Still doesn't change the idea that Sulu's and Uhura's fate were like the other ships. Then again, maybe they both pulled a Janeway and returned to tell the tale and were promoted to admirals.
So, Sulu was a captain of the Excelsior for 33 years if that's accurate.
Impressive... and interesting that he was in command of the Excelsior for so long.
Picard on the other hand had 23 years worth of serving on the Enterprise before resigning his comission, and the ENT-D was destroyed after only 7 years.
Huh... Excelsior seems to be in service in the 24th century still (albeit upgraded/refitted).
I wonder though, how come the new Stargazer we saw didn't have original insignia with the letter 'A' on it?
Unless Starfleet refitted the original Stargazer and turned it into this new ship in the 24th century and gave it a modern registry?
At this point in history, I'm guessing Starfleet isn't much into putting suffixes at the end of classic names and numbers if they can help it. We only really have two big examples with the Enterprise and Voyager, with Discovery to come centuries from now. Lots of room for interpretation and reinterpretation of whatever rules they want to use.
Today, Dave Blass also released a bunch of pics of the Stargazer sets:
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1501268573880152067
Notably regarding the bridge, as it stands it's about ten feet wider than the Enterprise-E bridge, which was in turn ten feet wider than the E-D. Also, adjoining the conference room is a ready room, which I hope we'll see eventually:
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1501268612249653248/photo/1
You don't build all this for a one-episode guest ship. I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing a lot of this USS Stargazer towards the end of this season and into the next. Heck, it makes sense that the earlier picture of Okuda on the bridge was actually from production on the third season, and they've renamed those starboard Engineering consoles permanently into Science stations, which was pretty much their purpose in 2x01.
Mark
Today, Dave Blass also released a bunch of pics of the Stargazer sets:
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1501268573880152067
Notably regarding the bridge, as it stands it's about ten feet wider than the Enterprise-E bridge, which was in turn ten feet wider than the E-D. Also, adjoining the conference room is a ready room, which I hope we'll see eventually:
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1501268612249653248/photo/1
You don't build all this for a one-episode guest ship. I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing a lot of this USS Stargazer towards the end of this season and into the next. Heck, it makes sense that the earlier picture of Okuda on the bridge was actually from production on the third season, and they've renamed those starboard Engineering consoles permanently into Science stations, which was pretty much their purpose in 2x01.
Mark
Only Enterprises get a letter in this century. So far.
Additional: As Picard boards the Stargazer, they used the 32nd-century Discovery virtual shuttlebay set behind him. I guess it's forgivable, but I'm still wondering why Rios didn't send an honor guard or something to greet a VIP. Seven volunteered?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Picard didn't want a honor guard and told Rios to not have one.
Picard doesn't seem like he wants a parade in his honor.
Still doesn't change the idea that Sulu's and Uhura's fate were like the other ships. Then again, maybe they both pulled a Janeway and returned to tell the tale and were promoted to admirals.
The info placard for Uhura's ship says she retired and the ship is now in a museum, and the one for the Excelsior says nothing about it being lost or destroyed. Voyager was retired in 2378.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1501055817088335873/photo/3
Cool. Too bad the text isn't really visible in the episode but it's nice to know that they all didn't share a bad ending in the art department minds.
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I'm surprised at how happy I am that the Enterprise-D saucer was salvaged and turned into a museum. Many more eloquent than I have written at length about how the Enterprise-D, as the Enterprise with by far the most screen time, deserved better than to go out the way it did in Generations, and I'm pleased that it wasn't just abandoned on Veridian III.
While it would undoubtedly be gratuitous fan service, might we hope for a scene in which Picard visits her one last time before the end of season three...?
While it would undoubtedly be gratuitous fan service, might we hope for a scene in which Picard visits her one last time before the end of season three...?
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They had to get it from Veridian before the neighbors invented telescopes
True, but at least they didn't just destroy it from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.
I mean, short of tractoring the whole thing back into orbit and then rigging a warp tow to take it to wherever the Fleet Museum actually is. I wonder how they DID that. I'd say the simplest thing (short of a starship capable of towing a saucer that big) would be to make sure it was structurally sound, and then borrowing the stardrive section from another Galaxy-class ship for a while...
Mark
Given that the saucer was designed for exactly this kind of emergency, I think Starfleet must have warp-capable recovery vehicles that can be sent out to bring the saucer to the nearest starbase.
We saw Tugs on DS9
