ST:FC soundtrack integration

[Frontier]

*Pokes his head into thread only since Peach Wookiee has done so...*

Personally, I'd like to think that we (TrekCore) have played a small role in prompting the official release of such materials. I can't prove it... but I like to believe it. For that matter, I found myself laughing when I read about the book "Star Trek 365" and it's "never before seen" photos and such. Hrm, wonder where they got that idea from?

And personally? I've bought every single complete score that's come out recently. Even if I had/have the bootlegs. I also ponied up $125 for the Ron Jones box set. If it can be bought? I buy it; even if I could have it for free. Because I believe firmly in supporting such products where it counts: in the bank.

I do that with many things. Take the TV show "Dexter" - I watched a few episodes of the first season once upon a time, enjoyed it, and so bought the DVDs. Or "Firefly" - someone on this very site bet me I'd like the show if I saw the original pilot; I did, I bought the DVDs and have since double-dipped for the blu-rays. I think it'd be a smart way of content delivery. Let people have the first 3-4 episodes of a show for free, and if they like what they see, they'll spend to have the rest.

 

[Indysolo]

Why would a label want to bother putting out this music since it's free to anyone that can go to your website? You really think that encourages them to release this stuff? That's funny.

And here's another question for you: if the First Contact score ever was re-issued would you take the links off your page?

Neil

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Indy, I'm asking the admins to take a look at this, but it doesn't seem so far that there's a problem.

 

[Frontier]

Why would a label want to bother putting out this music since it's free to anyone that can go to your website? You really think that encourages them to release this stuff? That's funny.

And here's another question for you: if the First Contact score ever was re-issued would you take the links off your page?

Neil

Yep. Matter of fact, took down the TUC stuff what w/it's release. And FYI, the full FC stuff has never been issued in the first place. So it can't be re-issued. But I get what you meant; and the answer is yes.

Let me ask you this: are you going to buy the new Star Trek VI album that just came out today?

Yep. Already have. Should come in the mail today.

Anywho, I'm not here to start a discussion or debate or anything else. I simply saw this thread a while ago, did not offer my two cents on anything. Only when I saw Peach Wookiee's reply, figured it was safe to do so (offer my two cents) and did so. That's all. I don't make any of the decisions on what content is up or not. So... yeah. No point discussing it. Just wanted to offer my opinion.

I'm personally very, very happy that TPTB have finally made an effort to release this sort of stuff. It thrills me to no end, truly does. People have waited and wanted it for decades, and finally we're receiving it. It's wonderful! There is a market for this stuff and it's about time it was rewarded.

As I said, I've bought every new musical release that's been made. Even the Star Trek IV expanded score, despite it being the worst score of any of the films! 80s electronica nonsense! LOL

 

[T'Bonz]

For those mod notifying, don't do so anymore. I'm aware of the thread and checking into things. Within a few days (communication time allowance) you'll know the issue is resolved in one of two ways: the thread will stay open, or the thread will be closed with an explanation as to why.

Carry on.

 

[Brikar99]

My copy of the 'Undiscovered Country' album came in the mail today. Listening to it now; verrrry happy to have this one. I guess my only complaint, and it's one I have with other expanded releases... the second disc with the original album seems entirely superfluous to me. Firstly because I already had those, so I feel like I'm paying for them again, and secondly because the first disc essentially has all that music on it already. Granted, it's edited a bit differently and all that, but still. I dunno... I wish these were single-disc expanded editions (except in cases where there's enough music to fill two discs for the complete score).

 

[Frontier]

I think they throw in the 2nd disc w/the original album on it as sort of a "freebie" to justify the $24.95 price tag they're charging for the 1st disc, tbh.

IE, we're paying $24.95 for 1 disc. The other is "filler" really.

 

[Brikar99]

I think they throw in the 2nd disc w/the original album on it as sort of a "freebie" to justify the $24.95 price tag they're charging for the 1st disc, tbh.

IE, we're paying $24.95 for 1 disc. The other is "filler" really.

It's hard to call it a 'freebie' when the $24.95 price tag is more than double what you can purchase most CDs for.

 

[doubleohfive]

Obviously none of us really knows how much time and effort goes in to restoring, remastering, and researching for these re-releases. From what little I do know about the process involved, $24.95 is rather fair, I would think.

 

[Indysolo]

The original album was included because it was a very different listening experience than the score as used in the film. It's made up of different takes, unique edits and even stage ambience to connect tracks. It was produced by Cliff Eidelman in 1991 and is something that could not be programmed (or made as a playlist) using disc 1. Trek's II and IV's original albums could be programmed with the single disc releases. III, V and VI could not, which is why the original albums are included. It also gives us the opportunity to hear these original albums remastered.

Neil

 

[Frontier]

Whatever reason, it's moot to me. I'm happy to pay the $25 for the expanded original and anything else is just icing, imho.

It's just such a shame it's taken 20 to 30 years for this stuff to finally be released.

I'm really going to be anxious now waiting to hear about Generations and First Contact getting this expanded treatment. Though some have said, Generations is already "more or less" complete?

FC, INS and NEM I know there is much more yet to be released, so I'm sure we'll see them.

And we got an extended edition of the nuTrek movie already, shortly after it was in theaters.

I wonder why it took Hollywood so long to realize the market for scores? Like, "The Dark Knight" getting an expanded release I think was the first real significant instance of such, and it opened the flood-gates IMHO.

I've got three copies of the TDK score myself, lol. One is signed by the composers, 1 is the expanded release, and then I have the Vinyl version.

 

[doubleohfive]

I'm pretty sure there are numerous tracks from Generations that were not included on the initial soundtrack release.

 

[Brikar99]

Obviously none of us really knows how much time and effort goes in to restoring, remastering, and researching for these re-releases. From what little I do know about the process involved, $24.95 is rather fair, I would think.

Probably not any more effort than goes into mastering and releasing any other album.

 

[Therin of Andor]

the second disc with the original album seems entirely superfluous to me.

It means I can sell my original one second hand, or take it into work, as I have done with all the previous Star Trek and Batman one-disc CDs. And I save a slot on the CD stand!

 

[Indysolo]

Here's the real album (it was just announced): http://store.gnpcrescendo.com/new/product_info.php?products_id=227

Can we close this thread now?

Neil

 

[doubleohfive]

Hear, hear.

 

[Ssosmcin]

It's hard to call it a 'freebie' when the $24.95 price tag is more than double what you can purchase most CDs for.

Not really. The average price for a single CD from one of the niche soundtrack labels is $20.

 

[Harvey]

I didn't realize GNP Crescendo was still in business; cool. I'll order that.

 

[Indysolo]

I have my ST:FC CD ripped to my computer and I just downloaded all the supplementary/alternate tracks from TrekCore.

You should buy the new CD. It sounds better.

Mods, can we please close this thread? It's discussing where to download items that are now officially on sale.

Neil

 

[Peach Wookiee]

There's no need to close the thread, guys, and for everyone who didn't see Harlow58's original post, that is a spambot, folks. It copies from the OP's post and has a link to some product. So this thread will be allowed to die a natural death. TrekCore still seems to be on the up-and-up and will likely take down the downloads now that the complete score is out there. I, for one, will buy if I can.