*Spoilers* U.S.S. Franklin Design?
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) my wallet can't agree with you on that one :/
) my wallet can't agree with you on that one :/
Having seen the movie again, I can confirm that those NX-class shuttlepods have "USS FRANKLIN" printed on their sides, which means the ship has to have a shuttlebay somewhere...
Hey which scenes in the movie again had the shuttlepods?
On the right, from the Franklin vLog seen a couple of times in the movie. most notably when Uhura recognises Edison's saying "Frontier"
...One of us * suggested that these things could just mate their dorsal docking ports to one of 'em holes at the stern cutout of the Franklin and cling on there vertically, not needing to be pulled inside. If we squint enough, those holes might even be big enough to let the shuttlepods themselves through - just take the image on the left and flip it 90 degrees and imagine it's the aft rim of the Franklin saucer, right there in the depths of that parabolic cutout.
If hanging on the outside, the pods would naturally be lost in the incident that deployed the ship inside bedrock. Or at least shaken loose when Sulu eased the ship out of said. If inside, they might not warrant any sort of mention. And certainly the designer-suggested 137 m length of the ship would make it easier to accommodate the pods than the size perhaps otherwise suggested by things like bridge windshield size, deck count or whatever.
* (Now who was it? It's somewhere downthread, or in another thread, or something...)
Timo Saloniemi
If hanging on the outside, the pods would naturally be lost in the incident that deployed the ship inside bedrock. Or at least shaken loose when Sulu eased the ship out of said. If inside, they might not warrant any sort of mention. And certainly the designer-suggested 137 m length of the ship would make it easier to accommodate the pods than the size perhaps otherwise suggested by things like bridge windshield size, deck count or whatever.
* (Now who was it? It's somewhere downthread, or in another thread, or something...)
Timo Saloniemi
Me, I thought maybe one of them could be held vertically on the aft port so that anyone getting in would do so through the dorsal port they climb down into on the NX-01. It would fit neatly in the wedge at the back between the catamarans, protecting it at warp.
But that would only allow for one "quick access" shuttle, two more could be crammed into some kind of drop bays that were sandwiched in, but there are no ventral bays on the Franklin in the film.
But that would only allow for one "quick access" shuttle, two more could be crammed into some kind of drop bays that were sandwiched in, but there are no ventral bays on the Franklin in the film.
It would be simpler (for us the apologists) to fly the pods in bow first or stern first through a lateral bay. The hole would then not need to be seven meters by the long side, but merely as wide and tall as the shuttlepod in cross section. The rim of the saucer is about six meters high, easily allowing for such door dimensions. And since the vertex of the aft wedge is hidden in darkness, we can easily imagine two such holes in there. Although of course just a single hole would suffice, shared by as many pods as we want to include (but two pods sounds fine to me).
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Probably, the pods are very small on Enterprise, but can carry 5 people pretty easily. Two complete pods was enough for all of the series run (Waxing Moon shows 4 of them on the NX-01 and parts for two more builds, with the rest in the port and starboard "through deck" cargo bays).
Something similar to the arm on the NX-01 but instead grabbing the nose of the pod and pulling it in would do, as well as extending to push them out for deployment.
Something similar to the arm on the NX-01 but instead grabbing the nose of the pod and pulling it in would do, as well as extending to push them out for deployment.
On the right, from the Franklin vLog seen a couple of times in the movie. most notably when Uhura recognises Edison's saying "Frontier"
I'll have to look again and pay more attention. So much stuff to look at in this movie
Yup, in one episode they use it for random jeopardy as the Enterprise can't warp away from a fight because the shuttle keeps slipping off the end of one.
Received the plastic Blu-Ray model today.
There's no room in the aft "bay" of the ship. The remaining surface is comparatively smooth. If there's a shuttle hangar, it could be at the front or bottom of the saucer.
Let's hope Eaglemoss gives us enough hi-rez material to settle that.
There's no room in the aft "bay" of the ship. The remaining surface is comparatively smooth. If there's a shuttle hangar, it could be at the front or bottom of the saucer.
Let's hope Eaglemoss gives us enough hi-rez material to settle that.
Three scenarios: what was seen in the movie, what was actually on the CGI model, what is on the Eaglemoss one.
First scenario: hell, yeah. Much of the ship is in darkness, and hatches of suitable size can easily be imagined in the nooks and crannies - especially as the pods are so small and, unlike later shuttles, are supposed to squeeze in with the help of rigid arms, with barely centimeters to spare.
Second scenario: depends. No doubt there are interesting greeblies all over the ship, and OTOH there isn't likely to be a scale-establishing feature (see the main hero ship for the futility of using the windshield for that purpose!), so any greeblie we might find can be scaled up to accommodate the pod.
Third scenario: awaiting news.
Timo Saloniemi
First scenario: hell, yeah. Much of the ship is in darkness, and hatches of suitable size can easily be imagined in the nooks and crannies - especially as the pods are so small and, unlike later shuttles, are supposed to squeeze in with the help of rigid arms, with barely centimeters to spare.
Second scenario: depends. No doubt there are interesting greeblies all over the ship, and OTOH there isn't likely to be a scale-establishing feature (see the main hero ship for the futility of using the windshield for that purpose!), so any greeblie we might find can be scaled up to accommodate the pod.
Third scenario: awaiting news.
Timo Saloniemi
^ Since one of Edison's logs clearly shows a shuttlepod landing in the background (presumably recorded before the crash, as there are dozens of people in that particular clip, but after the Franklin's crash there were only three survivors), then we probably can.
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