*Spoilers* U.S.S. Franklin Design?
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That's why I LIKE it when we see changes with imaginative designs. Most trek techheads hate it! Sacrilege they all scream!
Sorry, but that explanation cannot pass as a legitimate argument for one simple reason. It wasn't used in the finished episode. Using deleted material to explain something is like trying to convince me that a torn up 747 can still fly because it had wings. Yeah, it 'had' wings, but that doesn't change the fact that it needs wings to fly.
The model was used and the BOP's resemblance to the Enterprise is quite obvious.
This.
There was also a line about Romulan spies...
"STILES: Negative, sir. I'm pointing our that we could have Romulan spies aboard this ship. "
If there are spies aboard the Enterprise, there are likely spies scattered throughout Starfleet.
It basically looks like they took the Akira class starship, flipped it upside down, and remapped it into a more primitive looking (and much much smaller) ship. The bridge window is exactly where the Akira's deflector would be.
I think the fact that it resembles the Loknar is just a coincidence.
I think the fact that it resembles the Loknar is just a coincidence.
Fun to see the classic saucer ventral concavity now appear dorsally... Will she fly nose down like the Enterprise did in the TOS opening credits, so that the helmsman can get a clear view ahead past that rim? 
That's a small ship all right. Is there any direct connection from that one-deck saucer rim to the core? Or do people have to run to the aft quarters to find a standing-height corridor to the center?
Timo Saloniemi
That's a small ship all right. Is there any direct connection from that one-deck saucer rim to the core? Or do people have to run to the aft quarters to find a standing-height corridor to the center?
Timo Saloniemi
A line that derived more from speculation and prejudice than actual fact. I would certainly give you the benefit of the doubt if this was expanded on in future episodes, but it wasn't.
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Because it has engines attached to pylons? The Klingons have ships with engines attached to pylons as did the Dominion. There's plenty of design elements to the Romulan Bird of Prey that make it unique enough to be it's own thing without resorting to 'Well, naturally they stole the design from the Constitution class ships because no one else uses pylons".
Not to mention when you watch Enterprise, this Bird of Prey was a pretty common design that the Romulans have had for more than a century.
And what does any of this have to do with the Franklin? I just that the engines looked like the Romulan Bird of Prey, I didn't want to start some continuity conspiracy. Why would you choose to design a ship based off a deleted line from an episode that didn't even take the concept anywhere? That's not how design continuity should work.
Except there's some precedence in "The Enterprise Incident," where Spock states that the Romulans are now using "Klingon designs." Notice he didn't say "Klingon ships." Which could imply that the Romulans are building these D-7 copies themselves, not just buying/stealing them from the Klingons. So it's also possible that the Romulans copied Federation designs too.
Now with that said, do I personally think that to be the case? No. But you can't say that there isn't precedence.
Because the engines look like the the Enterprise's, Because the design of it's saucer section is similar to that of the Enterprise. Even with the paint job it fits in with the design aesthetics of Starfleet. The Star Trek: Enterprise redesign tries to move it away from the Starfleet look and towards the Romulan look of the later shows, but never completely succeeds. The Klingon ship has a different feel even if it uses the same elements.
Who's talking about continuity? The ship is obviously designed to look like a Starfeet ship and is influenced by previous designs
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Whoa! 
Just caught this! I like it, I like it!!!!
Interesting, the rim of slots that surround the bridge and curve round the saucer towards the rear of the ship: the slots themselves spay directly outwards (conventionally radial), from the front of the bridge viewing window, but then start to sweep back at a different angle (from the surrounding saucer curve), towards the rear...
I'd be interested to know whether these are indeed phasers...
Either way, I'm extremely excited to see another new Abramsverse Starfleet vessel! Huzzah!
Just caught this! I like it, I like it!!!!Interesting, the rim of slots that surround the bridge and curve round the saucer towards the rear of the ship: the slots themselves spay directly outwards (conventionally radial), from the front of the bridge viewing window, but then start to sweep back at a different angle (from the surrounding saucer curve), towards the rear...
I'd be interested to know whether these are indeed phasers...
Either way, I'm extremely excited to see another new Abramsverse Starfleet vessel!
Huzzah!
I still think the large window could mean a bridge with a two levels. Maybe a lower main floor and a raised floor behind it. Then again I thought viewscreens meant they had no need for a front window.
I love the window with display overlays.
*deep breath*
AKIRAPRISE!!!!!11!!1!!111oneoneone
Surely you mean "FRANKIRALIN", right?
Shapes wise though thats interesting... Wish I were better at 3d, be interesting to build an Akira/Franklin/TOS miss mash ship!
Same, really do not understand why we didn't see overlays more with the view screens in general to provide a little more information to the CO without him having to ask (speed, shields even the time like STVI) for ships where the Captain has little information direct to his chair (unlike Voyager and Defiant)
Yet are there ships where the Captain would lack access to information? The E-D had two sorts of handrest displays for Picard; the E-E, likewise. Kirk originally had that gooseneck. And an unobstructed view to the centerline displays of the helm console, apparently optimized for the CO to the detriment of the helm and navigation officers.
Trek invented some pretty fancy workarounds for its practical inability to use truly futuristic displays or interfaces - from the standard patterns of hypnotic lights to nonsensical strings of numbers to "touchballs" to chrome-glistening levers and dials. If the Franklin is supposed to represent some decade we haven't visited yet, I'd love to see yet another attempt at "futurism". What sort of controls is Sulu sitting at in the trailer?
Timo Saloniemi
Trek invented some pretty fancy workarounds for its practical inability to use truly futuristic displays or interfaces - from the standard patterns of hypnotic lights to nonsensical strings of numbers to "touchballs" to chrome-glistening levers and dials. If the Franklin is supposed to represent some decade we haven't visited yet, I'd love to see yet another attempt at "futurism". What sort of controls is Sulu sitting at in the trailer?
Timo Saloniemi
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