*Spoilers* U.S.S. Franklin Design?

[Timo]

Due to the lightweight balloon tank construction, the entire body of the Atlas rocket could be placed in orbit.

A missile doing single-stage-to-orbit is not the thing I find impressive about Cochrane's rocket, though. A missile lifting a payload as big as herself (the part that would have been the second stage in a Titan II) to a high trajectory that for all practical purposes should qualify for an orbit is what's far beyond the capabilities of today's rocket technology. And never mind that warp engines might well be much heavier than rocket fuel, making the feat even more staggering.

That this is outdated tech as of the 2050s should not surprise us, though, since the 1990s already featured feasible human interplanetary travel (and the odd interstellar foray), the 2000s saw the launch of interstellar probes that apparently found their targets in a matter of decades, and the 2030s had week-long trips to Mars.

One really wonders how advanced the Franklin was for her time. Flashy new superfast engines, yeah, but perhaps bolted onto a ship that differed very little from the ones Earth launched in 2065 or so?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tim Walker]

Looks like a little scout ship, 2 or 3 decks. I like it, though having a full viewscreen window on a ship that tiny is a bit weird. Maybe a tiny ship is just what they need to fight those swarm ships.

Yeah, I think the Franklin must have been considerably smaller than Archer's NX-01-the Franklin interior looks even more cramped than the interior of the Enterprise.

The Franklin is probably as small a ship as you would use for a deep space mission.

I also think that it is somewhat older, and slower, than Archer's ship.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yeah, I think the Franklin must have been considerably smaller than Archer's NX-01-the Franklin interior looks even more cramped than the interior of the Enterprise.

The Franklin is probably as small a ship as you would use for a deep space mission.

I also think that it is somewhat older, and slower, than Archer's ship.

According to the designer the Franklin was intended to be 450ft long (137.16 meters)

 

[Tim Walker]

Looking at different web sites..... I have been seeing a figure of 225 meters for the length of Archer's NX-01 Enterprise.

 

[drt]

Anyone here know where one could purchase the small Franklin model that's floating around. I guess you could get them at some theaters?

It was available at certain European and Canadian theatre chains as a "cup topper" and will be available as part of a Walmart exclusive (along with Enterprise and a swarm ship) when the blurays are released. There will be a nicer model available as a Amazon exclusive bluray release.

 

[Tim Walker]

It has occurred to me that a small ship could be the Hero ship for a new Trek series. Worked in Firefly.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ I think that only really worked because they were the "underdog" fighting against a tyrannical interstellar government. Unless that's the fate they have for the Federation, to deconstruct it into a tyranny being run by Section 31 more overtly, it probably wouldn't work as effectively.

I guess they could theoretically do that in the JJverse without wrecking decades of canon, which was the whole reason for making it an alternate timeline in the first place. Maybe they're going to make the JJverse the "mirror" universe and the Nero incident was the creation of it.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

^^^ I think that only really worked because they were the "underdog" fighting against a tyrannical interstellar government...

Voyager Reboot!!

 

[F. King Daniel]

That definitely looks like an NX-class shuttlepod in the USS Franklin vlog:

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

^^^ I think that only really worked because they were the "underdog" fighting against a tyrannical interstellar government. Unless that's the fate they have for the Federation, to deconstruct it into a tyranny being run by Section 31 more overtly, it probably wouldn't work as effectively.

I guess they could theoretically do that in the JJverse without wrecking decades of canon, which was the whole reason for making it an alternate timeline in the first place. Maybe they're going to make the JJverse the "mirror" universe and the Nero incident was the creation of it.

That actually could work I think.

 

[Tuskin38]

That definitely looks like an NX-class shuttlepod in the USS Franklin vlog:

Oh wow!

I was going to add Beyond to the pod's appearance list on M-A, but someone already did it, back in July haha.

Another shot

 

[drt]

Well, that shot shows the pod came from Franklin, now we just have to decide what greeble/detail on the outside of the ship works for an access hatch since the model doesn't officially have one.

 

[F. King Daniel]

If you mean the round thing, that's the 2150's Starfleet logo, seen on the shuttlepod in "Home"

 

[Tuskin38]

If you mean the round thing, that's the 2150's Starfleet logo, seen on the shuttlepod in "Home"

I don't think Drt was talking about that at all.

They're wondering where the shuttle bay on the Franklin is.

I wonder if the Beyond FX team just asked for the Shuttlepod CG model from whoever had it, or made their own.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Ooooh, I understand now.

Ummm... it's right next to the navigational deflector, just above the aft nacelle.

 

[drt]

I don't think Drt was talking about that at all.

They're wondering where the shuttle bay on the Franklin is.

I wonder if the Beyond FX team just asked for the Shuttlepod CG model from whoever had it, or made their own.

Oops, yes, wasn't clear that I meant by "access hatch", as in a shuttlepod bay door on Franklin not a hatch on the shuttlepod itself.

But above the aft nacelle works for me.

 

[yenny]

I don't think Drt was talking about that at all.

They're wondering where the shuttle bay on the Franklin is.

I wonder if the Beyond FX team just asked for the Shuttlepod CG model from whoever had it, or made their own.

The Franklin can't land or take off. It only has a transporter that only transport cargo. How in the world they get off and on the the ship? She has to have a shuttlebay. Must likely on the bottom .

 

[Tuskin38]

Air lock?

Obviously it should have a shuttlebay, there just isn't one according to the designer.

We have to make one up.

 

[gerbil]

The Franklin can't land or take off. It only has a transporter that only transport cargo. How in the world they get off and on the the ship? She has to have a shuttlebay. Must likely on the bottom .

The designer specified a docking port (most likely the small square on the back), the top where Scotty takes Kirk, and presumably on the bottom or side where Jaylah enters.

 

[Kemaiku]

Those shuttlepods have a docking port on top and are very angular in shape.

If you look at the cavity between the catamarans on the Franklin, you could have a shuttlepod tucked vertically there, and enter through the top port. The shuttle would then tip nose down to horizontal, facing aft of the ship, and move away.