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Spock is GAY?!

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Heck, Howard Stern peppered JJ Abrams with the question and Abrams dodged it...

Is it "dodging" to refuse to answer something which is not up to him to choose to reveal or not, if true?

"What does it matter?" (already answered earlier in this post)
It's not so much the discussion in and of itself as the way the OP was phrased, with exclamation points and gay in all caps as if it would be some kind of massive shock or outrageous revelation.

If a gay man or woman chooses to come out or promote gay-related events, then there's no issue with discussing it. But when you post "Spock is GAY?!" besides making the inaccurate connection between character's preferences and actor's preferences (something some people seemed to have a problem with with Sulu/Takei as well), it begs the question of why you find the fact that an actor might be gay so amazing.

"TrekBBS is supposed to be above this non-sense." Ummm...yeah..right.

"Didn't you know that talking bad about someone who might be gay on this site can get you censored??? Well, to which...oh oh...wait...the thought police (moderators) are cutting in...oh my god...they got me...call for help..."

WE INTERUPT THIS POSTING FOR THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT

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Need help carrying that cross?
Bingo.

Rob is still sore that one of his threads was closed (several months ago, this) for consisting of nothing more substantial than a lame joke. We've already done the ("jumping the gun with mock outrage") MA appeal and the matter has been settled. There was absolutely no reason for it to have been raised again here, other than for grandstanding purposes, pure and simple.

Or perhaps Rob feels he's due a royalty payment because the OP's choice of thread title ("Spock is GAY?!") uses a format so often employed by Mr. Scorpio that he now believes he owns it by default? Whatever the case, this is the wrong forum in which to file a complaint.
 
I already know plenty of actor dating habits.. And you're only about 55% right.

A know plenty of actors who date models and photographers as well...rather than dating someone who could be working their side of the street, as it were..
 
That's right. Straight people have nothing to hide, while being gay is totally embarassing. Like, why would a straight guy keep their private life private? They should be telling everyone that they're straight, and parading with their girlfriends for everyone to see them, so they can tell the world "See? I AM STRAIGHT! SEE HOW STRAIGHT I AM!" In fact, it is really suspicious when someone doesn't talk about it in every interview: "Oh and BTW? I am straight! Did I mention that I'm straight?" "I've heard that there are some rumors online about me being gay? Well, I'm gonna tell everyone that I'm 100% straight! Do you want to take a pic of me and my latest girlfriend?" Now that would be a normal, expected reaction from any straight man. :shifty: :vulcan: :cardie::evil:

Oh wow, my bad, I didn't mean to come off like that. I don't think being gay should ever be something to be embarrassed about. Lets see if I can rephrase that...

People get unnecessarily excited when a celeb comes out. Magazines will cash in on the news, people will talk, it'll last a week and then it'll be over. Its unfortunate but it happens. Thats Hollywood for ya. I don't think its exactly the kind of attention anyone wants to receive.

Make sense or should I just shut up?
Oh, I didn't mean to come off all self-righteous and judgmental. I agree that there is a good reason why celebrities might not want to come out as gay: 1) too much publicity over their private lives, which some people might want to keep private, 2) the public starts behaving like their sexuality is the main or the only important thing about them, 3) it might limit their choice of roles due to people's narrow-mindedness.

However, I find it funny that celebrities choosing to keep their private lives private and not comment on it even when they're rumored to be gay, is taken as as assumption set in stone that they have to be gay. The philosophy seems to be that a straight person (bisexual people apparently don't exist, as far as most people are concerned) would right away take steps to deny the rumors in every possible way. Which is a very strange assumption. I find that a straight person who's rumored to be gay would have even better reasons to ignore to rumours rather than to address them. At least that's how I'd feel if I was famous and there were rumors I was gay.

1) First of all, it would be, IMO, incredibly lame to announce to the public that you're straight, especially when nobody has even asked you the question directly in an interview. But even if they do - it all would seem like you're "defending" yourself from an "accusation". In other words, you'd be implying that being gay is something bad, and that you really need to convince the public that you're not "one of them". Of course, this argument doesn't apply to celebrities who are homophobic themselves. But how about those who believe that there's nothing wrong with being gay?

I've actually known examples of this in my (rather homophobic) country, and whenever a person makes the effort to deny they're gay, this is exactly how it comes off. Several years ago, a certain liberal politician (president of a small political party) was "accused" of being gay by some of the media, just because his party had anti-discrimination policy as a part of its platform, which most of the parties prefer to be silent about, in order not to rock the boat and alienate the voters. He quickly denied he was gay, and he came off very clumsy and defensive, as if he was agreeing to the idea that being gay is a crime or an embarrasment - and my esteem for him dropped several notches. I can't blame him, given the homophobia of the most of the general public here, but I expected better. (It needs to be said that this was several years ago and things are a little better now. A little.)

2) Second - if you actually do address rumors about your sexuality, you are just giving them more publicity and more weight, and even implying that the gossip columns/websites who are spreading them are credible sources and public forces to be reckoned.

3) Third - chances are that, after rumors have been spreading for a while, many people won't believe you anyway, and will just see you as a closet gay person who is desperately trying to pretend that they're straight. Because, see, once there is a rumor you're gay, for some people you just have to be gay. You can only come out as gay, stay silent, or be accused of pretending. You'll be the butt of jokes, people will be asking to see your girlfriends (boyfriends if you're a woman, although for some reasons, it seem more popular to spread rumors about male celebrities), and if you actually have a lover of the opposite sex and decide to appear in public with them, there will be many people who will call them 'beards', crack jokes and go on about how much of a sham it is. Would you really want your dignity and the dignity of your partner and your relationship trampled on like that?

4) Fourth - and what if you're single and have nothing to present to the public, no boyfriend or girlfriend? Does that mean that you have to be tortured with questions like, so why don't you have anyone? How is it possible for such an attractive and popular person? Is there something wrong with you? I am not a celebrity, but I know that this is the kind of attitude you get from people once they realize that you're single even though you are young, attractive and sociable. And you know what? I'd much prefer if people would start believing that I'm gay and leave me alone, then give me crap like that.

5) Fifth - some people, regardless of their sexual orientation or relationship status, just want to keep their love life private, period. Why would they have to make it public, just to satisfy some gossip-mongers? Where does that idea come from, that celebrities are obliged to let the public in on every detail of their private lives? Personally, I always felt that going on and on in public and all sorts of magazines about a relationship you're having or have had cheapens it. But if people like to tell the whole world about their life, that's fine, too. However, some people simply don't.
 
As far as the tabloids are concerned, Hollywood celebrities are like Star Trek characters: They have to present a heterosexual love interest at least once. Not doing so is proof of homosexuality, period. This works for understanding Star Trek.

But why is this thread about Quinto? Hasn't Jada Pinkett gotten suspiciously Shakespearean of late? ("Methinks, the lady doth protest too much." I've never been convinced that where there's smoke, there's fire. But when someone's carrying a fire extinguisher, I tend to think so.
 
The reality is that you will never know one way or another unless the actor in question decides that the world should know. Hollywood, long ago got very good at covering up secrets that it truly does not want the public to know.

Knowing that an actor is married or a known player with the ladies is absolutely no guarantee that that person is straight. So its usually not worth speculating because these folks have enough money to cover up anything they want.
 
Zachary Quinto's sexuality/personal life is something he doesn't discuss.

The rumor started because he's had a couple bisexual/gay roles (the kiss wasn't even real), some of his metrosexual mannerisms and the fact that he's articulate. The rumors largely seem to center around his role on So NoTORIous.

You'll also pretty much note that every actor on IMDb has some 'Are they gay?' thread (often of the wishful-thinking variety). Even the ones that are completely ridiculous with a lot of evidence to the contrary; though admittedly, ZQ's love life is total and complete mystery.

And as for ZQ playing 'straight' roles, he's done heterosexual romantic scenes both in Heroes and Star Trek XI. His Sylar character even has a sexual scene with the character Elle during The Eclipse two-parter. His Sylar and Spock roles are straight, anyway. Sylar has had more female love interests on Heroes than most of the heroes--and he's the villain!

I don't know anything about any of that. All I know is that, from the first time I saw the actor being interviewed, I was pretty much convinced he was gay. It had nothing to do with any rumor or any role he has ever played.

As to whether that makes a difference, it obviously very much does make a difference to some people and very much does not make a difference to others.
 
Or perhaps Rob feels he's due a royalty payment because the OP's choice of thread title ("Spock is GAY?!") uses a format so often employed by Mr. Scorpio...

I have to disagree with you here.

Unlike with Mr. Scorpio's thread titles, I actually had some semblance of an idea of what this thread was going to be about. His titles, on the other hand, are usually so non-sequitur that you have no clue what the thread is going to be about. And, if you're like me, you find yourself quite irritated by that disconnect, yet also strangely compelled enough to click on the thread anyway, just to find out how incredibly off you were about your guess as to the thread's subject matter, which then irritates you all the more when you find out how mislead and confused you were.
 
Well if he is gay, maybe it will get more gay people to watch Star Trek, it's not like Star Trek hasn't had a major gay actor before.

I don't really care. But now I have this morbid curiosity if he isn't or not.
 
Unlike with Mr. Scorpio's thread titles, I actually had some semblance of an idea of what this thread was going to be about. His titles, on the other hand, are usually so non-sequitur that you have no clue what the thread is going to be about. And, if you're like me, you find yourself quite irritated by that disconnect, yet also strangely compelled enough to click on the thread anyway, just to find out how incredibly off you were about your guess as to the thread's subject matter, which then irritates you all the more when you find out how mislead and confused you were.

QFFT.
 
Spock has been gay for a long, long time. You obviously need to catch up on your fanfic. :D

As for Zachary Quinto, perhaps it would be appropriate for all of us to mind our beeswaxes until such time as the guy decides to share his private life with all of internets fandom. Yeah like he's that dumb. :rommie: He should just tell everyone he decided to become a monk.

I've assumed he was gay since I first saw him as Adam Kaufman on season 3 of 24. But maybe Adam Kaufman the character was just gay.

That's what I thought! I was intrigued by the notion that 24 just up and decided that one of the CTU employees should be gay, without integrating it into the story at all. After all, the fact that, say, Edguh is straight (???) wasn't a plot point in the story. Now I wonder if Quinto just decided to do that on his own initiative.

In that case, can we try to figure out what Karl Urban has for breakfast? Much more important!

Was it Zachary Quinto? :D

Bad me, this is how rumors get started...

:lol:

I didn't think of that!

Is no one reading these posts? ^^^ THIS is obviously the heart of the matter! Who knew?!?!?!?! :guffaw:
 
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