Spock and Uhura [SPOILERS]
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You two are scaring me, in a good way, but still. 
Wow, lots of new people on this thread, with interesting things to say 
No wonder I like them both!
And you're right, Spock announcing the precise odds and Kirk telling him that it was going to work with a confident grin transported me back to the time when I was a kid and watched TOS.
Uhura is very intelligent, brilliant, dedicated to her work, beautiful and caring and she understands Spock. I'm glad they chose her as a love interest for him and not some random chick.
OMG, I've never realised that Darcy and Spock had that little something in common
No wonder I like them both!What I love the most is that they were intelligent enough to not make Spock finish his sentence. This way they avoided the cheesy and let us use our imagination.
And you're right, Spock announcing the precise odds and Kirk telling him that it was going to work with a confident grin transported me back to the time when I was a kid and watched TOS.
Uhura is very intelligent, brilliant, dedicated to her work, beautiful and caring and she understands Spock. I'm glad they chose her as a love interest for him and not some random chick.
I agree with you whole-heartedly. You're right.
I have mentioned before in another thread that for me this scene was werid. Not because of the actual kissing to comfort the other. I don't really think it's wrong kissing your partner when they're grieving. You hold them tight, of course you hug them, give them warmth, even kiss them. If they don't want you to kiss them in a situation like that, they will tell you or pull away. Spock in this scene didn't pull away. he hugged and kissed her to. He didn't reject it.
So, it's not the wrong thing to do in the situation given in the movie here.
However, what felt kinda wrong to me there was, I guess, the pure fact that it was Spock and Uhura.
It just seems so.....illogical. These two! I mean, there isn't any indication of the two of them ever having had an affair or a fling in any of the original episodes or the movies, is there?
I thought it was just a way to indicate Spock also has a very strong human side to him, and that he can be tempted by things, which I think was unnecessary to show that way because it's clear, anyway. It comes through all the time there, so the kissing part to make it more apparent to us was, well, not desperately needed.
On the other hand, it was alright with me, because it kind of fitted into the grande scheme. It seemed okay that she wanted to comfort him in this situation and it turned out to be this way.
You see, I'm a little torn here. It's a logical part in context with the rest of the movie, but the fact it's Spock-Uhura is kind of illogical, looking back at the movies and TOS.
Nah, you get the idea.......
I'm probably gonna see it for a 3rd time this week, so I can eventually make up my mind about whether I approve of this scene or not now.
Actually there is precedent in the series for Spock and Uhura. Check out seeason one, Charlie X, The Manhunter, and some other episodes that I can't remember off the top of my head. Also I think you should check out Gene's notes and behind the scenes stories and books, as well as Nimoy's and mostly Nichelle's. There's a reason why it was hinted at and them dropped like a sack of rocks.
Let's just say that if it hadn't been for Shatner's ego, the racists suits at Paramount and NBC, and if Gene and other fellow writers had been given due clearance Spock and Uhura would have happened anyway.
And I believe that thier TOS backstories are parallel to NuTrek backstories. Spock was her mentor, and close friend in both.
The kiss in Plato's Children would have been between Spock and Uhura, and it wasn't originally forced.
I think this romance is 43 years in the making.
Oh, really? Man, I so can't remember many of the episodes, it's becoming more and more obvious to me. Haven't watched TOS in a long time. I used to know it all very well, cause I've seen all the episodes on TV many, many times, but I still don't have TOS on DVD and the last time I saw an episode was like 4 years ago.
They're on my birthday wish list, of course, so I guess in two weeks I'll watch all of them. But thanks for that hint, I totally couldn't remember there are indications of a relationship between the two in TOS. I'll check it out once I get the DVDs, for sure.
Of course, this is all in a different light now.
Well, in this case, I guess it's fine with me that they're kissing in the movie. 
When I first saw the new movie I hadn't watched TOS in probably 10+ years. I was all "Gack! Where the Bleep did THAT come from!" (I went into the movie totally unspoiled-no idea of plot or actors even).
I've started watching the first season of TOS (I dug out my old tapes and am converting it to DVD) and I agree, it is obviously hinted at in Charlie X and The Man Trap. It could be argued that there is a hint of it in The Naked Time as well. Right after Sulu grabs Uhura there is a reaction shot of Spock which I'd never noted before. Which normally I'd have expected one of Kirk instead since he was right there too.
Kind of takes you back to "everything new is old again."
I've started watching the first season of TOS (I dug out my old tapes and am converting it to DVD) and I agree, it is obviously hinted at in Charlie X and The Man Trap. It could be argued that there is a hint of it in The Naked Time as well. Right after Sulu grabs Uhura there is a reaction shot of Spock which I'd never noted before. Which normally I'd have expected one of Kirk instead since he was right there too.
Kind of takes you back to "everything new is old again."
Check link below for a beautifully written blog entry revealing how nuUhura and her relationship with Spock can be so positively regarded by women of color:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/10/730051/-In-an-Alternate-Universe,-Spock-Kisses-My-Hand
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/10/730051/-In-an-Alternate-Universe,-Spock-Kisses-My-Hand
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A non-sexual comfort kiss seemed completely appropriate to me. I thought the scene was very well done.
This may be cultural differences.
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I don't think K/S slashers can be stomped upon. they've been around a looooooooong time and they'll survive.
LOL, yeah. I'm older than dirt. I read some of the very first slash and said to myself what have these people been smoking! It was probably the Kirk giggling that did me in.
I followed the link upstream and was very pleased to find the Spock&Uhura fanfic was by one of my favorite GSR fanficers.
When I first saw the new movie I hadn't watched TOS in probably 10+ years. I was all "Gack! Where the Bleep did THAT come from!" (I went into the movie totally unspoiled-no idea of plot or actors even).
I've started watching the first season of TOS (I dug out my old tapes and am converting it to DVD) and I agree, it is obviously hinted at in Charlie X and The Man Trap. It could be argued that there is a hint of it in The Naked Time as well. Right after Sulu grabs Uhura there is a reaction shot of Spock which I'd never noted before. Which normally I'd have expected one of Kirk instead since he was right there too.
Kind of takes you back to "everything new is old again."
yeah orci said that the stuff they saw in the early episodes played a part in what they did.
Doesn't it always start with the captain's log?
Hello All,
Question for those who have read the book---Firstly, the book is "Star Trek" by Alan Dean Foster...Correct?
I just listened to the 5 min clip of the audiobook read by Zachary Quinto...such a beautiful voice, but I would like to read the book myself.
Thanks for any help
I really would like to know if the book addresses the S/U relationship's beginnings....
Question for those who have read the book---Firstly, the book is "Star Trek" by Alan Dean Foster...Correct?
I just listened to the 5 min clip of the audiobook read by Zachary Quinto...such a beautiful voice, but I would like to read the book myself.
Thanks for any help
I really would like to know if the book addresses the S/U relationship's beginnings....
I was equally sad and mad about that. GRrrrrr! Why did they leave it up to my overly active imagination. Dang it, now ZQ is going to have to get naked even more!!!
Oh wait, what were we talking about, again?
May I also suggest splurging on the audiobook. PM me if you want details on it.
Oh wait, what were we talking about, again?
May I also suggest splurging on the audiobook. PM me if you want details on it.
I was equally sad and mad about that. GRrrrrr! Why did they leave it up to my overly active imagination. Dang it, now ZQ is going to have to get naked even more!!!
Oh wait, what were we talking about, again?
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LMAO
Seriously, why did they even bother?
I couldn't find a real good vid, but there is this from Heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd1v9txNgKo&feature=PlayList&p=1729948175E2A2FA&index=20
I'd stopped watching so I hadn't seen it, but yumm. His pecs and biceps are looking look just soo nice to me.
But unfortunately it DOES make you wish you could see more.
Sulu was a breakthrough for me, and especially my brother. My dad is white, but my mom was Filipina, and my brother and I were always thrilled to see an Asian actor in any role that wasn't a stereotype. My brother, especially, needed male Asian role models to identify with, and in 1966, the two men who stood out were George Takei as Sulu and Bruce Lee as Kato on "The Green Hornet."
I was especially enamored with Spock, for every reason already listed, but also because the idea of an alien who was a "good guy" was so unique at the time, and I loved the idea. That he was also caught between two worlds because of his mixed parentage, was also something we could identify with.
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