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Spoilers Spider-Man: No Way Home - Review and Discussion Thread

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I can understand the desire, but ultimately this was the MCU Peter's story, not the story of any of the other characters. Adding codas for the villains or the other Spidermen would muddle the themes of the movie.
In the main body of the film, I agree, but that's the whole point of mid- and post-credits scenes: They're additional material that's separate from the themes of the stories and act as funny asides, set-ups, or even codas. I think getting glimpses of the current lives of Maguire's and Garfield's Peters would've fit in perfectly. A shame we didn't get them.
 
The way I'm assuming that works is that the documents (physical or otherwise) all still exist, they just don't have his name, photo, or any of his details on them. They're either blank or magically redacted to the point of uselessness. So yes, hypothetically there's a bunch of blank files out there mysteriously filed between "Parker, Perry", and "Parker, Peyton", lots of weird blanks spaces in news articles, directories, yearbooks and the like. Probably the most confusing thing for MJ in particular would be the selfie of herself, taking up half the screen and she's smiling. Which is downright weird unto itself.

So yeah, from all that an especially obsessive, thorough and paranoid person may be able to reconstruct enough to deduce that someone called "Peter Parker" was erased from existence in his late teens, but since The Question is a DC character, not a Marvel one, the odds of that are slim! ;)


Assuming the rules of time travel are still the same, they're all technically variants of the ones we saw in the movies, taken out of their universe at the moment they learned Peter was Spider-Man. It's been ages since I saw the Rami films so I don't recall exactly when that happens (and I only ever watched SM3 once when it came out on video) but in Norman's case I think that would be right after the thanksgiving scene when he notices the cut on Peter's arm. Presumably he was taken just after when the reality fully sunk in (to account for how he came through with the suit and glider) and would likely have returned to that same point in time. What point is space however is an interesting question since they all seemed to arrive more or less in the same place they were in their universe; Otto was out by the Hudson, Max was inside the power grid, Eddie was in that hotel room in Mexico etc, so it stands to reason they all either reappeared at the same time they left, but in the place they were in the MCU (Liberty Island), or where they were originally.

So Harry at least would arrive in a world where his son is still very much alive. The logistics of Otto's arrival are a little tricky since in the original version of his timeline, he came to his senses long enough to destroy his machine, but die in the process mere minutes after he left. Maybe his grip on sanity would only ever be temporary since the chip was still fried, and he was taken *after* he fell into the river, so this version of Otto should have returned to an already destroyed machine, though still in a world where Norman is already dead, and Harry is on the path to following in his footsteps. Maybe he helps Peter save Harry, or at the very least stops Clint from falling into that supercollider.

In the end this was all 100% Magic - so anything is possible. There was no Time Travel involved as Dr. Strange even mentioned the fact he no longer had the time stone. It was a spell that affected the entire multiverse - which is probably another reason WHY Wong cautioned against it's use - even though Strange once used it to erase memories of a truly debauched party earlier. ;)
 
I wonder had May survived if she would have been really 'messed up' by the no one remembers Peter spell. Her life, her life choices, everything would have been drastically different without Peter. She probably would have been seeing a shrink and trying to figure out why her life felt so out of place.
 
If she'd survived, Peter wouldn't have done the 'nobody remembers me' spell. He wouldn't have been able to.

Yeah, that's why even though her fridging was awful, it kinda had to happen for the movie's ending to make sense. Peter wouldn't be able to deal with Aunt May being alive and not knowing who he was.
 
I hate this “fridging” analogy. Its done once in a green lantern comic to progress a story and all of a sudden it’s seen as the worse thing you can do to a character. The character in question was a nothing character anyway. :)

If May was happy, Peter could live with it. He’s stronger than you think
 
I hate this “fridging” analogy. Its done once in a green lantern comic to progress a story and all of a sudden it’s seen as the worse thing you can do to a character. The character in question was a nothing character anyway. :)

If May was happy, Peter could live with it. He’s stronger than you think

Because it made people go back and analyze past comics and realize just how often it happens and how disproportionately it happened to women.
 
Only because there were mainly male centric comics back then. Killing off love interests is a affective story trope.
Had nothing to do with comic creators hating women or anything.
 
Toby Maguire's role was a lot more than a cameo, both him and Garfield were pretty much full-on supporting cast. Cameos are usually just one quick scene, and both of them were in a pretty significant chunk of the movie.

"pretty much" reads as "no so much" / "edging toward the border". In any case, he (Maguire) was the only saving grace of this film.
 
If May was happy, Peter could live with it. He’s stronger than you think

A scene where Peter goes to the shelter and sees May, even talks with her, could have worked.

It occurs to me that if there's no Uncle Ben in this universe, which seems to be Watts' intention, then is May Richard Parker's sister rather than sister-in-law?
 
This movie has a lot of dumb stuff in it, but all that dumb is in the service of things that are utterly delightful. So it gets a pass. Because when the movie is dumb, it's dumb. But when it's good, it's fantastic.
 
This film was Andrew Garfield’s (once they came into it). Before, during and after that it was owned by Holland. But if all the returnees, Garfield was best and benefited most.

I also love that it had both of Ditko’s most famous creations in a team up/show down/team up.
 
This film was Andrew Garfield’s (once they came into it). Before, during and after that it was owned by Holland. But if all the returnees, Garfield was best and benefited most.

I also love that it had both of Ditko’s most famous creations in a team up/show down/team up.

Garfield was utterly fantastic and as much as I was delighted by Maguire's return (my favorite on-screen SM), Garfield acted circles around everyone (well, except maybe Dafoe.)
 
It occurs to me that if there's no Uncle Ben in this universe, which seems to be Watts' intention, then is May Richard Parker's sister rather than sister-in-law?
Ben was referenced in both Homecoming and Far From Home, suggesting he died recently (in relation to Homecoming), but considering Peter doesn't carry any guilt over his death and only empathy towards May for her loss, his death appears to be different from usual.
 
Garfield was utterly fantastic and as much as I was delighted by Maguire's return (my favorite on-screen SM), Garfield acted circles around everyone (well, except maybe Dafoe.)

Maguire seemed like he was half asleep. Just cashing in a pay cheque. Garfield definitely stole the show.
 
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