Spoilers Spider-Man: No Way Home - Review and Discussion Thread

[wew]

Saw this a few hours ago and it was fairly decent. The one death was a bit unexpected until I heard the "line" The stereo type responses for a period were an interesting take.

Thought I saw an image of Kraven possibly migrating to the universe during the shattering, but appears to have been sent back with the others who had crossed the whole way.

 

[thribs]

Wasn’t a fan of all the self referential jokes. Making fun of the characters names and how they became the super villains undermines them. If you start making jokes about the “silliness” of comic book movies then the whole thing falls a part. These things have to be taking seriously in context of the story or why should the viewer care?

 

[StCoop]

So, off to a good start, to put it mildly.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/spider...-time-for-sony-100m-friday-likely-1234898486/

 

[tomalak301]

When can I expect Jessica Jones to appear back in the MCU?

Just got back from seeing it and I really really liked this movie. I really liked how they coordinated the cameos with Hawkeye and No Way Home and I'm hoping we can expect JJ in a series or movie coming soon.

As for the rest of the movie, this felt like a tribute to the last 20 years of Spider-Man under the Sony Umbrella, using the MCU as a backdrop. I wonder if I should revisit the older Spider Man films (I didn't even see Garfield's second movie) but they did a really good job kind of recapping those movies without taking too much time away from what was happening. The stuff I really liked though were just the emotional moments. This was Tom Holland's best performance as Spider-Man, and that emotion coupled with the other Spidermans showing up were probably my favorite moments of the movie.

There was another cameo I was looking for and that was the actor who plays Dani Rojas in Ted Lasso, which came in the credit sequnce. I don't watch the Venom movies so was that Tom Hardy he was talking to at the end there? Also, nice trailer to the next Dr. Strange movie.

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[Awesome Possum]

I love how Tobey/Spidey had clearly gone through therapy at some point and was trying to be supportive of Andrew/Spidey and Tom/Spidey. Trying to keep them from being so negative about themselves and congratulating Tom/Spidey for joining the Avengers despite not knowing what the Avengers are.

 

[thribs]

When can I expect Jessica Jones to appear back in the MCU?

Rumor is in the She-Hulk show.

 

[Skywalker]

My only disappointment is that there wasn't a post-credits scene of Tobey Maguire's Peter going back to his universe and meeting up with Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane and their daughter, setting up Mayday Parker to eventually join the MCU.

Other than that, brilliant from start to finish. It was lovely to see Andrew Garfield get a bit of redemption after his two middling movies (which weren't really his fault). I was fairly confident that he would end up being the one to save MJ when she was falling in the trailer, and I might have done a bit of a fist pump when it happened. The brief exchange between them after landing was really sweet, too. His Peter is so sad; I like to think meeting his "brothers" helped give him some hope to bring back home. And I loved his Peter's self-deprecating sense of humor. ("I'm so lame compared to you guys!" and "Yep, I'm Peter-Three!" with that shrug of acceptance. )

I also enjoyed how they managed to turn this trilogy into one long origin story for Spider-Man and put him into his more familiar place by the end. There was a pretty clean break; they could keep the story going, or they could end it there. Hopefully Marvel and Sony can keep this partnership going. I'd love to see one more trilogy with Tom Holland taking his Peter through college and into young adulthood, then have Miles Morales take over afterward.

 

[thribs]

Miles? I’d rather get 2099 afterwards.
I’ve heard that the post credit was indeed going to be something like that but Kirsten or some other actor(s) weren’t available at the time of filming so they dropped it.

It took 6 years but we finally got the Spider-Man origin story.

 

[Reverend]

Speaking as someone that didn't bother to watch either of the Andrew Garfield movies until just a few years ago (and thought they were surprisingly good and pretty terrible, respectively) I hope the reception to this movie makes him feel a little vindicated. I've already seen a few audience reactions posted on youtube and two of the biggest cheers are fairly consistently from his entrance, and him saving MJ from the fall.

I love how Tobey/Spidey had clearly gone through therapy at some point and was trying to be supportive of Andrew/Spidey and Tom/Spidey. Trying to keep them from being so negative about themselves and congratulating Tom/Spidey for joining the Avengers despite not knowing what the Avengers are.

I honestly got the impression that Tobey-Peter was a counsellor and/or teacher of some sort in his daily life. I mean that they caught him in his civvies and yet, no camera; so probably not a press photographer anymore doesn't prove anything either way, but still.

My only disappointment is that there wasn't a post-credits scene of Tobey Maguire's Peter going back to his universe and meeting up with Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane and their daughter, setting up Mayday Parker to eventually join the MCU.

I don't disagree, but then if they did that, then they'd also gave to do an Andrew Garfield post credit scene where he runs into his universe's MJ and they recreate the "jackpot" scene . . . and now the movie would have like 4 post credit scenes and that's probably too many.

 

[thribs]

They’ll just have to make a Spider-Men movie.

 

[The Knappos]

I think it’s time to bring back the Marvel One-Shots from phases one and two. Give Tobey and Andrew little short film Codas

 

[The Knappos]

I think it’s time to bring back the Marvel One-Shots from phases one and two. Give Tobey and Andrew little short film Codas

Of course, Sony would have to play ball on that, so probably never happen

 

[thribs]

I’m sure the movie would make money. More so than this Morbius movie

 

[StCoop]

My only disappointment is that there wasn't a post-credits scene of Tobey Maguire's Peter going back to his universe and meeting up with Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane and their daughter, setting up Mayday Parker to eventually join the MCU.

If I was Amy Pascal I'd be lining that up as an actual movie in it's own right. They'd have to have Defoe and Molina appear as well to show that Norman and Otto are alive and (mentally) well in the present day.

No James Franco though, obviously.

 

[StCoop]

Already past 300 million at the box-office. Which is just as well since I can see there being a lot fewer chances to see it on the big screen as Omicron restrictions kick in around the world. (Here in Ireland everything's going to be shutting at 8pm cutting out evening showings.)

https://deadline.com/2021/12/spider...-weekend-international-box-office-1234891616/

 

[Skywalker]

I don't disagree, but then if they did that, then they'd also gave to do an Andrew Garfield post credit scene where he runs into his universe's MJ and they recreate the "jackpot" scene . . . and now the movie would have like 4 post credit scenes and that's probably too many.

Hey, if Guardians 2 could have more than two credits scenes, why not Spider-Men?

 

[urbandefault]

Saw it today. Loved it, but man, that's a lot to take in. I need to see it a couple more times to soak up the stuff I probably missed.

I honestly got the impression that Tobey-Peter was a counsellor and/or teacher of some sort in his daily life. I mean that they caught him in his civvies and yet, no camera; so probably not a press photographer anymore doesn't prove anything either way, but still.

Spoiler: Peter 2

"Really cool youth pastor." - Peter 3.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Where do I start (and how without spoilers)?

I loved it. That's a good start.

There was some trepidation that this film would be overstuffed with so many characters from so many films, much like Civil War. However, just like the Captain America film, I'd argue No Way Home managed to juggle all of those moving parts and still maintained a strong story for its lead character at its core. Not only is this film a good bookend for Peter Parker of the Watts trilogy (while setting up for a whole new kind of stories for Holland and company), it's also a good bookend for most of the characters of the Raimi and Watts films (well, less so Lizard and Sandman).

I've made no secret my many issues of those films but I do think most of them had at least the bones for great character studies (to varying degrees). I greatly appreciate how this film deftly built upon (and in Electro's case, improved on) those character studies. I enjoyed how Doc Ock continued his redemption his arc, even if this film skipped over his sacrifice from Spider-Man 2. I especially loved how Garfield's Peter got his very much needed emotional catharsis by rescuing MJ. And Dafoe outdid Molina when it came to chewing the scenery, stealing every scene was in!

But in the end, this story is Holland's and he knocked it out of the park. I felt his pain when he felt completely wrecked by Aunt May's death. Not just mourning in denial at her side, but afterwards when comforted by MJ and Ned. That's why it felt so believable that this affable, kind, young man would feel so much rage against Norman and had to be stopped by another Peter. And my heart broke again for him when he had to make the selfless decision to go through the spell this time and clear the memories of even his girlfriend and best friend. The emotional weight of that decision was carried very well by Holland from the moment he made that decision to his goodbyes to his failed attempt to keep his promise to remind them of what happened (at least for now...).

And, of course, how can I not mention the big cameo we all knew was coming (especially after Wednesday!): It was SO damn good to see Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock once again and on the big screen! We even got a "what-the-fuck" Daredevil reflex when he caught the brick before Peter even sensed it! That left a good ol' shit-eating grin on my face! I need more of his Daredevil!!!

I greatly look forward to many more films with Hollad's Spider-Man, my Spider-Man.

 

[StCoop]

I greatly look forward to many more films with Holland's Spider-Man, my Spider-Man.

Sony's going to need to rent that dump truck Disney used to cart around RDJ's salary after the success this is having. A blockbuster going into profit in it's first few days would be impressive any time; in the world we live in now it's insane.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

But what really made it special was the realisation that we'd all been conned. They hadn't skipped Spider-Man's origin this time round it had just being playing out very, very slowly.

YES. I loved that reveal. Even when May said her version of The Line, I should've seen what was about to happen but I guess I was in denial much like Peter. But man, I have to say this was the best take on the origin. So brilliant and it didn't feel forced at all.

Strange getting all pissy because Wong had been made Sorcerer Supreme during his disappearance after Thanos, was so funny.

That was brilliant and makes perfect sense. But now I wonder how Wong has all that time going to fight club and karaoke?

Peter trying to help the villains be better people was all kinds of good, even if it ultimately cost him May.

Yup. That's the essence of Peter. Almost always selfless for the needs others no matter the personal cost (almost because he was selfish during the spell and initially putting off May's suggestion at helping).

^ Part of me was holding out for a Nicholas Hammond cameo!

Even though I knew it wasn't going to happen, I was holding out for a Shameik Moore cameo!

But we did get that Black Spider-Man suggestion from Electro!

I really thought for a minute they’d reference Oc’s affection for May with these two.

Yeah, I thought that was going to happen, too. Even just a subtle hint but alas.

Rumor is in the She-Hulk show.

I sure hope so!

I think it’s time to bring back the Marvel One-Shots from phases one and two. Give Tobey and Andrew little short film Codas

That would be fantastic. I especially want to follow up on Garfield's Spider-Man and his dark turn. That's some fertile ground there.

Sony's going to need to rent that dump truck Disney used to cart around RDJ's salary after the success this is having. A blockbuster going into profit in it's first few days would be impressive any time; in the world we live in now it's insane.

Maybe but Holland has also been clear in the past that he would keep playing Spider-Man for as long as Marvel wants him to. So, yeah, he deserves a big payday but he doesn't need his ego soothed either.