Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread

[JD]

I've been wondering if maybe the movies are going to play out a longer version of Spidey's arc in the original Civil War, where he started out on Iron Man's pro-registration side but then defected to Captain America's resistance. We saw him become Stark's protege in the movie version of Civil War, but we also saw him briefly connect with Cap. We've seen in the Homecoming trailers that Cap appears on school videos and Peter boasts to Ned about meeting him, and it looks like Spidey's relationship to Stark is going to get strained over the course of the movie. I'm wondering if the Cap video cameos are meant to set up a post-credits scene in Homecoming where the fugitive Cap shows up and recruits Spidey to his renegade team, or something, to set up the second Spidey film.

Even if he doesn't join Cap's group, I could see him ending up being a middle man between the two groups. While he is a bit more attached to Stark, he really wasn't as involved with the worst of the Civil War stuff as other characters, so there probably wouldn't be as much animosity between him and Cap as there could be between other members of Stark's team. I could even see that being part of how everybody comes back together for Infinity War.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

All 3 of the Tom Holland solo Spider-Man films are going to feature the character during his high school years; this was confirmed months ago.

This means that the second and third solo Spidey films will unequivocally break the MCU cycle of each film being set in the year in which it's released since they're going to have to be set in 2018 and 2019, respectively, in spite of the fact that they'll be released in 2019 and, presumably, 2021. It also means that, for Marvel Studios' part, the second Infinity War movie, if it includes Spider-Man, may end up referencing events that we as an audience haven't yet seen.

Yes, we know they'll be out of sync. I still don't believe marvel would release a 'contemporary' movie after IW that's supposed to be set before IW. Its too big of a stretch for the audience.

 

[DigificWriter]

Yes, we know they'll be out of sync. I still don't believe marvel would release a 'contemporary' movie after IW that's supposed to be set before IW. Its too big of a stretch for the audience.

Marvel Studios might not, but Sony definitely will be.

 

[Anwar]

And I've already started running into people who are saying that the movie has too many villains (the Shockers, Vulture, now apparently Mac Gargan will be in this).

Why does everyone bring up Spider-Man 3 in these scenarios, yet they always forget that Batman Begins had at least 3 villains in it and no one cared?

 

[Christopher]

My impression is that the Shockers (is there more than one in the comics?) are in the role of henchmen to the Vulture, and I'd guess Gargan is too.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

And I've already started running into people who are saying that the movie has too many villains (the Shockers, Vulture, now apparently Mac Gargan will be in this).

Why does everyone bring up Spider-Man 3 in these scenarios, yet they always forget that Batman Begins had at least 3 villains in it and no one cared?

Scarecrow, al-Ghul... Who are you counting as the third villain?

 

[Anwar]

Scarecrow, al-Ghul... Who are you counting as the third villain?

Falcone, the mobster.

 

[Tosk]

This means that the second and third solo Spidey films will unequivocally break the MCU cycle of each film being set in the year in which it's released

Totally not a rule. It happens a lot, but it also doesn't happen a lot.

 

[DigificWriter]

Totally not a rule. It happens a lot, but it also doesn't happen a lot.

Besides the first Captain America, name an MCU film that hasn't taken place in the year of its release.

 

[Christopher]

Besides the first Captain America, name an MCU film that hasn't taken place in the year of its release.

The Incredible Hulk came out in 2008 but was retconned to take place simultaneously with Iron Man 2 and Thor, which were released in 2010. For that matter, there's some disagreement over whether those three films take place in 2010 or 2011.

 

[DigificWriter]

I'll give you TIH, but what I believe is the case there is that it begins in 2008 but then takes place over a span of 2 years, ending shortly after IM2, which is definitely set in 2010.

 

[Christopher]

Come to think of it, doesn't Guardians of the Galaxy 2 take place not long after the first movie, and therefore before Captain America: Civil War? I remember reading about Stan Lee's cameo there creating a continuity error by referencing his delivery-guy cameo that hadn't happened yet.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

It's only a continuity error if Stan Lee isn't omnipresent.

 

[Reverend]

Come to think of it, doesn't Guardians of the Galaxy 2 take place not long after the first movie, and therefore before Captain America: Civil War? I remember reading about Stan Lee's cameo there creating a continuity error by referencing his delivery-guy cameo that hadn't happened yet.

You're assuming he only travels forwards in time!

P.S. I was kidding, but as soon as I typed that I remembered he appeared as a WWII General in CA:TFA....so not so crazy after all. Basically, he's an interstellar Sam Beckett.

Alternate take: he's actually Stan Lee from our universe bouncing around in the movie world, so his appearances line up from our perspective according to release dates. This of course means that the MCU exists in the same multiverse as Mallrats...and I think I'm OK with that.

 

[kirk55555]

If all movies with Stan Lee cameos are in continuity with each other, that means that The Princess Diaries II is also in MCU continuity . I guess it is a Disney movie, so there wouldn't be a legal issue.

 

[theenglish]

If all movies with Stan Lee cameos are in continuity with each other, that means that The Princess Diaries II is also in MCU continuity . I guess it is a Disney movie, so there wouldn't be a legal issue.

It is just set on a parallel earth.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The Phase One timeline is on a sliding scale and all over the map. Iron Man 2 (2010) takes place six months after Iron Man (2008) and the climactic scenes of IM2, The Incredible Hulk (2008) and Thor (2011) all take place within days of each other, and then the Avengers takes place a year after that. All told, about a year and a half of story time, four years real time.

The Phase Two timeline has been more linear, but the Phase Three timeline seems to be going back to being more random.

 

[Christopher]

According to Kevin Feige, both Infinity War and Avengers 4 will take place in the hiatus between Peter Parker's freshman and sophomore years, with the second MCU Spidey film being the start of his sophomore year, even though it comes out two years after Homecoming.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-next-spider-man-film-will-be-the-civil-war-of-marve-1796402155

So it looks like they're breaking from real time, but not to the extent of telling the stories out of order.

 

[theenglish]

And as long as there is nothing contradictory in the stories themselves then there should be no problem for the viewing public. Hell, I wouldn't know the specific timeline if somebody on this board didn't point it out to me.

 

[DigificWriter]

@Christopher Peter is a Sophomore in both Civil War and Homecoming, not a Freshman.