Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread
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I've never heard of him before. Still, I'm glad they went with a younger actor. Hopefully this means we will get more than a couple of movies with him in it.
Apparently he's got some acrobatic skills: http://www.superherohype.com/news/344395-check-out-tom-holland-practicing-his-spider-man-moves
Apparently he's got some acrobatic skills: http://www.superherohype.com/news/344395-check-out-tom-holland-practicing-his-spider-man-moves
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^ It hasn't been officially confirmed AFAIK. However, the auditions were held in Georgia, near where CW is filming. Moreover, both finalists apparently screen tested opposite Robert Downey Jr and Holland went on to test against him and Chris Evans. So, putting that together, it seems a pretty safe bet that he'll be in it.
Sorry for the double post but it now seems to be official: http://www.newsarama.com/24922-spider-man-confirmed-for-captain-america-civil-war.html
I don't know if anyone else will find this as interesting as I do, but SuperheroHype has just posted an exclusive interview with Kevin Feige in which he talks about the Marvel/Sony Spider-Man partnership in fairly deep terms.
http://www.superherohype.com/news/3...eige-on-the-marvel-sony-spider-man-connection
http://www.superherohype.com/news/3...eige-on-the-marvel-sony-spider-man-connection
Today's Cracked has an article (can't link from work) on how recent superhero movies have shied away from putting their actors in masks (Iron Man not counting, as he gets all those in-helmet insert shots), with Spider-Man being the obvious and biggest exception. And Spidey fans (not so much general audiences, I'd bet) have griped about how often the mask comes off in the movies.
So, on a philosophical note, I've been wondering if an alternate technique might work. Say, for certain shots, the Spidey actor would be filmed wearing a partly-transparent head covering, with strong enough colors to be visible, but not so strong as to obscure his expressions. And then in wider shots, as well as shots from others' perspectives, the mask would be opaque as usual, indicating that only the movie itself can see through the material. (And I may have gotten this idea from somewhere else; but I don't recall that if so.) Thoughts?
So, on a philosophical note, I've been wondering if an alternate technique might work. Say, for certain shots, the Spidey actor would be filmed wearing a partly-transparent head covering, with strong enough colors to be visible, but not so strong as to obscure his expressions. And then in wider shots, as well as shots from others' perspectives, the mask would be opaque as usual, indicating that only the movie itself can see through the material. (And I may have gotten this idea from somewhere else; but I don't recall that if so.) Thoughts?
If it were see-through and form-fitting, it would distort the actor's features in an unflattering way, like a hood wearing a nylon stocking over his face.
Today's Cracked has an article (can't link from work) on how recent superhero movies have shied away from putting their actors in masks (Iron Man not counting, as he gets all those in-helmet insert shots), with Spider-Man being the obvious and biggest exception. And Spidey fans (not so much general audiences, I'd bet) have griped about how often the mask comes off in the movies.
So, on a philosophical note, I've been wondering if an alternate technique might work. Say, for certain shots, the Spidey actor would be filmed wearing a partly-transparent head covering, with strong enough colors to be visible, but not so strong as to obscure his expressions. And then in wider shots, as well as shots from others' perspectives, the mask would be opaque as usual, indicating that only the movie itself can see through the material. (And I may have gotten this idea from somewhere else; but I don't recall that if so.) Thoughts?
Maybe do it like Iron Man but swap the HUD for the mask?
I thought of that. Two possible countermeasures: make the face part of the hood solid, or cheat with the see-through material and mold it somewhat to the actor's face to prevent his nose and such from smushing. The resulting "transparent" face would no doubt end up more defined than the "real" opaque exterior, but that might be an acceptable fudge...
That picture's closer to my idea, IMO (maybe you agree, and intended that), but I thought of an inside-the-mask shot, too. The awkward thing there is, what would the part of the frame that isn't Peter's face be? Black like Iron Man's helmet, or red and blue? And then there'd be the danger of yanking people out of the scene by reminding them of said Stark HUD shots.Maybe do it like Iron Man but swap the HUD for the mask?
Or maybe they could just keep the mask on? The hero probably spends half or more of the average superhero movie (the solo ones at least) out of costume anyway. One of the things Dredd did right (among MANY things) was that Karl Urban didn't let ego get in the way of the story. You don't see his face once the entire movie. That's a bit extreme and doesn't even fit most characters, but I think that the average actor could stand to spend, what, 30 minutes without their mug on the camera? Its actually not a big deal to me, if the story is good I don't care if the actor is allergic to hiding their face. I just really don't think they need to start going to ridiculous lengths to keep the mask off in a superhero movie.
According to Kevin Feige, the new Spider-Man movie will be influenced by John Hughes and his style of movies. He also said that they're focusing on bringing in villains who have not yet appeared on the big screen.
This means Big Wheel might finally appear in a movie. I've waited years for Spider-Man's greatest foe to appear on the big screen. Don't disappoint me like Raimi and Webb have, Feige!
This means Big Wheel might finally appear in a movie. I've waited years for Spider-Man's greatest foe to appear on the big screen. Don't disappoint me like Raimi and Webb have, Feige!
ASM1 felt pretty John Hughes-y to me in parts. Feige also said "Just as we hadn’t seen a heist movie in a long time, or a shrinking movie in a long time, we haven’t seen a John Hughes movie in a long time," despite the fact that The DUFF, co-starring Arrow's Firestorm, did respectable business earlier this year. Of course, it didn't have in-movie superheroics...
That just seems way to complicated and unnecessary to me. If we don't need to see his face then leave the mask on, and if we do then take it off. The only time he really needs the mask is when he's out in public around people who he needs to hide his identity from. I doubt that will take up that much of the movie.Today's Cracked has an article (can't link from work) on how recent superhero movies have shied away from putting their actors in masks (Iron Man not counting, as he gets all those in-helmet insert shots), with Spider-Man being the obvious and biggest exception. And Spidey fans (not so much general audiences, I'd bet) have griped about how often the mask comes off in the movies.
So, on a philosophical note, I've been wondering if an alternate technique might work. Say, for certain shots, the Spidey actor would be filmed wearing a partly-transparent head covering, with strong enough colors to be visible, but not so strong as to obscure his expressions. And then in wider shots, as well as shots from others' perspectives, the mask would be opaque as usual, indicating that only the movie itself can see through the material. (And I may have gotten this idea from somewhere else; but I don't recall that if so.) Thoughts?
^ Unnecessary, maybe, but complicated? I don't see it as any more complicated than using subtitles to show a text message without adding an insert shot of a character's phone, or a split-screen to show both sides of a phone conversation. It'd be a stylistic choice, one that might take a bit of getting used to at first, but that doesn't amount to complicated, IMO.
I think the real answer is just giving Peter Parker meaningful moments when not in his mask. That's what they did for Christian Bale in the Dark Knight trilogy. I think the article has a lot of correlation rather than causation. They made the character important rather than just a glorified action figure. In the case of Iron Man, they hired someone they pay a lot of money to so they need get their money's worth (and that means having Downey, not Iron Man). But that doesn't mean masks are a problem. Even the Spider-Man films came across the same problem and had Spidey lose his mask quite often. But I don't think that improved the films.
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