Spoilers Spider-Man Far From Home review and discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Turtletrekker, Jun 27, 2019.

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Grade Spider-Man: Far From Home

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  1. A+ "Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot!"

    9 vote(s)
    17.3%
  2. A

    21 vote(s)
    40.4%
  3. A-

    5 vote(s)
    9.6%
  4. B+ "With great power, there must also come... great responsibility"

    8 vote(s)
    15.4%
  5. B

    4 vote(s)
    7.7%
  6. B-

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%
  7. C+ "The Spider or the Man?"

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%
  8. C

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. C-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. D+ "Spider-Man No More!"

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F "Threat or Menace?"

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  1. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    Heh, I didn't even notice that mistake. Mind you, I never noticed what he was cutting so I just took Watts word for it. :lol:
     
  2. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ...And I wasn't taking a shot at you at all with that post, promise. You don't seem to have taken it that way, but just wanted to be sure. :)
     
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  3. Teelie

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    I thought it was a solid movie. The end reveal with Peter's identity being revealed felt a bit eye-rolling worthy but otherwise everything else was good. Mysterio was unmasked figuratively and literally as a fraud and yet everyone will go on believing him anyways?

    Oh, yeah. I forgot. It's 2019 and the internet exists so people will believe anything they see or hear. :o

    Seriously though it did feel like a rehash of Homecoming only on a larger scale.

    The Skrull's though? That was really a genius move. That opens up new potential threats and stories outside of just Earth in a way that isn't on a Thanos level. It can also be a hand-wave for anyone who acts inconsistent or out of character although I hope they don't abuse that.
     
  4. RPOW0614

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    Good movie, fun romp in Europe, Mysterio was a good villain.
    It's a great movie and worth your time.

    Things I liked:
    Ned and Betty
    MJ does more than brood and be snarky
    Night Monkey!
    The Mysterio reveal
    CGI effects creating CGI effects. Especially impressive after "Spider-verse" set the bar really high.
    JK Simmons!

    Things I didn't like: (but still not that bad)
    Endgame call backs
    Happy and Aunt May (Can she just have a normal boyfriend please?)
    The Nick Fury\Maria Hill reveal
     
  5. Claudia

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    Gave it a B (although right now I'd probably downgrade to B-)... good movie, entertaining especially in the first half, but despite being an hour shorter I thought it dragged on more than Endgame. Liked the levity with Ned/Betty, MJ... it felt real although I have to say that I didn't buy into the Tom Holland teenage angsting as much as back in Homecoming.

    All the malcontent SI-employees... I love Tony to bits, but basing this movie on a grudge against him, seeing all the pictures and memorials (even though I loved the first one at school)... too much. I mean yes, Peter needs to do some on-screen grieving and figuring out where to go from here - but having SI, Happy and Tony's image everywhere, I don't know but I felt hit by a hammer (and that's not a pun).

    Contrary to what someone just wrote: That made it feel like Iron Man 4, even the allusion to "you don't have anything right now, no tech, no support, but an enemy that only you know about"... felt more like a rehash of IM 3 (with Mysterio himself a rehash of Vanko/IM2), especially when Peter started building the new suit after the teary breakdown. In and of itself a really nice scene on the jet, but adding everything together... just felt like too much.

    So, Spider-Man 3 will go down the "previously loved but now hated by the public" superhero routine on top of the identity reveal?

    Hm... I stand by my previously written opinion: cinema MCU is done for me with the possible exceptions of Spider-Man 3 and Dr Strange (though not eagerly awaited must-see movies, so perhaps I'll just see them on TV). Recently watched Captain Marvel and I thought it one of the worst movies of the 'verse, certainly one of the most boring ones. So can do without that. Still looking forward to the Bucky&Sam series.
     
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  6. TREK_GOD_1

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    Agreed.

    :techman:
     
  7. Gaith

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    A delightful flick. My one quick quibble for the moment is: why was London's Tower Bridge not actually damaged when the drones were destroyed? Surely the damage to Venice and Prague was actually real, or the ruse would have been up at once. But I'm pretty sure Tower Bridge itself was pretty much entirely intact after the "attack", even if filled with busted-up cars, despite the wind monster seeming to knock off large bits?

    ... Ah, hell, maybe the drones were going to do that, but just didn't get around to it, etc.

    I was half-expecting Strange to pop in at the end and help. What do they pay those London sorcerers for, anyway? :p
     
  8. The Nth Doctor

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    For otherworldly threats, as clearly stated by the Ancient One, Strange, Mordo, Wong, etc. Mysterio is smaller than small potatoes in their eyes.
     
  9. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah. Mysterio is not even Avengers level threat by his own admission.
     
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  10. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    So here is what seems to be some clarification on Tom Holland's contract. He has one more movie left. BUT-- if Far From Home doesn't hit a billion dollars, Sony takes over creative control with the next movie. Luckily for all involved, it seems as if Far From Home will probably hit that mark.

    https://www.slashfilm.com/spider-man-contract/
     
  11. JD

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    Not really, this was just Talos and his wife doing a favor for Fury.

    I finally saw the movie this morning, and I thought it was great.
    I thought the timing of the Mysterio reveal was pretty good. Since I was familiar with the character, I was expecting it to be revealed he was faking everything, but just before the reveal I was starting to wonder if maybe he really was a good guy. As for the character himself, I was pretty happy with him, and I thought Jake Gyllenhaall did a great job, he was believable as both the charming hero before the reveal, and the crazy villain after it. I thought tying him and his team to Star Industries, was a pretty good move for this story, since so much of it revolved around Stark's legacy. I just hope our next villain isn't tied back to Stark.
    The personal stuff was good too, all of the Peter and MJ stuff was done well, and the Ned/Betty relationship was really funny.
    The action scenes were great too, the whole sequence in Germany was especially a highlight.
    The mid-credits and post credits scenes were both awesome. I'm a big fan of the Raimi Spidey movies, so I loved having JK Simmons back as JJJ, and I thought turning him into a "news" vlogger was a great take on the character.
    The reveal that Talos and his wife were pretending to be Fury and Hill was great. I really don't think it's any kind of indicator of where the next Spider-Man movie will go, but I could see it as a hint at the direction Fury might go.
     
  12. Tom Hendricks

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    Should Nick Fury get his own movie at this point? I think not but with the Black Widow movie coming out, a Nick Fury: Agent of Sword movie would be nice.
     
  13. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

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    This article makes zero sense whatsoever.

    For starters, Sony has had creative control this entire freaking time.

    Secondly, I very seriously doubt that the continuance of this partnership is/was predicated on box office.
     
  14. DEWLine

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    Fury should get his own movies. Plural. While we still have Mr. Jackson.

    Back to our Spider-discussions.
     
  15. DEWLine

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    And I'll say it again: I'll be annoyed if Jameson manages to make anything other than the ID reveal stick to Peter's reputation for MCU purposes.
     
  16. Teelie

    Teelie Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It's more than that. There is the orbiting station and questions as to just how long they have been impersonating Fury. Was it just for this movie or have they done it before?

    Whatever they are up to, it involves Fury so that brings up more questions of how is he using them?
     
  17. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    I think he's only been impersonating Fury since after the funeral.
     
  18. Greg Cox

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    Do we have any reason to believe this? If you read carefully, they're just reporting on an unconfirmed report from an unofficial newsletter citing an anonymous source. We literally don't know where this "information" is coming from.

    In other words, there's no reason to take this as Gospel.
     
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  19. Turtletrekker

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    Hence "seems to be".
     
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  20. DigificWriter

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    You can justify believing in anything by saying "seems to be".

    That's not even remotely close to good enough, and, besides, as I pointed out, Sony doesn't need their licensing deal with Marvel Studios to end in order to have creative control over future Spider-Man films because they already do.

    Feige and Marvel Studios are like contractors; Sony has hired them to "build a building" (a solo series of films focused on Spider-Man and his direct supporting cast) for them while also allowing Marvel Studios to "rent a room inside that building" (Spidey and other characters' appearances in Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame) while they are simultaneously "building a house" (their own cinematic universe using other characters from the Spider-Man license with the potential to eventually integrate Spidey himself into said universe as played by Tom Holland).

    To continue this analogy, Sony is telling Feige and Marvel Studios "how to build the building" (Spider-Man Homecoming, Spider-Man: Far From Home, and "Spidey 3"), but are allowing Marvel Studios to "design their own room inside said building" (the aforementioned Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame).