"Star Trek: Destiny??"
(HINT: 'Destiny' was thought to be the name of the 'Picard series' before the show runners finally decided to name it 'Picard.'
Spoilers Speculation: Who's the Main Villain?
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"Star Trek: Destiny??"
(HINT: 'Destiny' was thought to be the name of the 'Picard series' before the show runners finally decided to name it 'Picard.'
Seven is on Earth, so it couldn't have been her.
Hugh, possibly (although I can't see him wanting to see his friends and family being disassembled for science).
Who knows?
This is Star Trek - it's gonna be a secret cabal/conspiracy, allied with an adversarial race/entity.
Robert Picardo is supposedly in discussion to join 'Picard' season 2 as well. Sir Pat has publicly invited Whoopi to return as Guinan. These might be all true or these could also be a ploy to keep fans hooked on the series....
Please never, ever mention "Aquiel" to me.
I don't think we've seen the real villain yet. My guess is the real villain is the leader of this secret Romulan group. The Starfleet Commodore is probably just a mid level agent in the group, not the actual leader.
Because you don’t like the episode or because the alien is creepy.
Picard's Irish-Romulan servant slave, who is not a Tal Shiar's super dee duper backup even more esoteric spy ring whatever thing but is working for the Federation to keep an eye on him because of some reasons.
Much thanks, I was starting to look up to verify and saw your post indicating the flag.
Much thanks, I was starting to look up to verify and saw your post indicating the flag.
But it's one cube. all anyone need do is to find Picard, have him look in the cube's direction while sitting on his vineyard's porch, sneeze after tickling his philtrum a little, and they'll all promptly deactivate and explode on cue. The Borg never really learned since TBOBW to try stronger tactics... and changing their ship's lighting from green to blue isn't enough.
Too strong and the Borg will end up DESTROYING the very civilizations they're seeking to assimilate.
I think you win the internet in every universe, timeline, parallel universe, alternate universe, the one where I rule the universe, and so on because that's actually the best explanation ever. They do want to grow their strength and even admirals, captains, other officers, and even Neelix with his cookbook all have unique perspectives that can be quite valuable... they probably realized that when dealing with Picard the first time then later assimilating Locutus...
After watching all 3 episodes several things stood out. When in the artifact you seen the sign indicates there had not been an assimilation in roughly 16 years aboard the artifact. Then you see Soji assisting in removal of Borg prosthetics and as two Romulans are packaging the arm they state the nameless Borg had been in stasis for 14 years. Soji says " his species has a name, we just don't know it." Then she speaks to the nameless in what is his species' language, confirmed by Hugh in episode 3. Also in episode 3 they mention the possibilty of a group consciousness to help former Borg become individuals again and the mention that the Romulan was unique, because she was the last person the artifact assimilated, Hugh asks Soji how she knew that and gave a non committal reply that she just knew it.
The synthetic attack on Mars was 14 years previous on First Contact Day. In First Contact the Enterprise went to the past and stopped the assimilation and secured First Contact. As self destruct was activated, Data calls to Picard presumably through his lingering connection to the Borg, Picard goes to Data and encounters the Borg Queen. When the Borg Queen talks to Picard she says "we were very close, you and I. You can still hear our song." Picard recalls she was on the ship, but that ship and all Borg on it were destroyed. The Queen replies " you think in such three dimensional terms, how small you've become." Data was semi assimilated and as First Contact indicated, the effects of assimilation are never truly gone. Perhaps Data's attempt to transfer his positronic engrams to B4 was more successful than the Daystrom Institute was led to believe and harvested by Mattox allowing the creation of Dahj and Soji.
If the artifact was dormant for 16 years, how was a drone in statis for only 14 years, not 16? 14 years seems to coincide with the unexplained synth attack on Mars on First Contact Day. What if the date is significant, the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth in the past and synth attack? If the effects of assimilation linger, and the Borg Queen was intimately close to both Data and Picard the sense could be passed on, if only fragmented, would explain how Soji knew the nameless Borg's species and language even though in conversation she said they did not know the name of his species. What if the Borg Queen is trying to come back? Or to tie Discovery in, what if there is some hybrid of Control and the Borg Queen? The Queen would know everything about Data and Picard and we saw in Discovery how Control could imitate key personnel, even the assimilation of Leland.
If Picard felt Starfleet was no longer like Starfleet and Discovery went to a future where the Federation was nearly non existent, perhaps Discovery will reappear in the Picard timeline to help thwart the new enemy and save the Federation.
It's new and exciting Trek and only a theory, even if it seems fragmented like a conspiracy theory.
The synthetic attack on Mars was 14 years previous on First Contact Day. In First Contact the Enterprise went to the past and stopped the assimilation and secured First Contact. As self destruct was activated, Data calls to Picard presumably through his lingering connection to the Borg, Picard goes to Data and encounters the Borg Queen. When the Borg Queen talks to Picard she says "we were very close, you and I. You can still hear our song." Picard recalls she was on the ship, but that ship and all Borg on it were destroyed. The Queen replies " you think in such three dimensional terms, how small you've become." Data was semi assimilated and as First Contact indicated, the effects of assimilation are never truly gone. Perhaps Data's attempt to transfer his positronic engrams to B4 was more successful than the Daystrom Institute was led to believe and harvested by Mattox allowing the creation of Dahj and Soji.
If the artifact was dormant for 16 years, how was a drone in statis for only 14 years, not 16? 14 years seems to coincide with the unexplained synth attack on Mars on First Contact Day. What if the date is significant, the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth in the past and synth attack? If the effects of assimilation linger, and the Borg Queen was intimately close to both Data and Picard the sense could be passed on, if only fragmented, would explain how Soji knew the nameless Borg's species and language even though in conversation she said they did not know the name of his species. What if the Borg Queen is trying to come back? Or to tie Discovery in, what if there is some hybrid of Control and the Borg Queen? The Queen would know everything about Data and Picard and we saw in Discovery how Control could imitate key personnel, even the assimilation of Leland.
If Picard felt Starfleet was no longer like Starfleet and Discovery went to a future where the Federation was nearly non existent, perhaps Discovery will reappear in the Picard timeline to help thwart the new enemy and save the Federation.
It's new and exciting Trek and only a theory, even if it seems fragmented like a conspiracy theory.
The Zhat Vash are "thousands of years old". The Romulan Star Empire is barely 2000 years old at most (time of Surak: 300 AD. Enterprise established that the Romulans were a faction on Vulcan at this time). Therefore, the Zhat Vash is more than likely an ancient Vulcan organization.
They have no allegiance to the Romulans or Vulcans(/Federation), just to their core mission of wiping out artificial intelligence, perhaps dating to their ancient, ancient origins as a Sargonian diaspora race.
The Tal Shiar were their puppets on Romulus. The V'Shar (note the similar name) could be their puppets on Vulcan. The destruction of Romulus and billions, while unfortunate, is of little concern, as they achieved their objective of quashing artificial intelligence development within the Federation.
We're told repeatedly of Dahj and Soji's ability to assess information. Dahj found Picard so easily. Soji knew info about the Borg and the Romulan lady she wasn't supposed to know.
These 2 would be a serious threat to whoever sabotaged the synths.
I say Oh isn't a deep cover Romulan agent. She's actually a Starfleet officer who's a Vulcan extremist (not unlike Valeris). She sabotaged the synths to destroy Romulus, the Vulcans' hated enemy.
Her mission was accomplished. However, somehow she found out about Dahj and Soji. With their abilities, they would easily find out she's responsible. So she has to neutralize them (maybe not kill them immediately as she needs them to find Maddox to stop him making more androids).
Oh approaches the Zhat Vash. She blames Romulus' destruction on the rogue synths, and tells them they have a shared goal in destroying Dahj and Soji. Thus the Romulan hater ends up ordering Romulans around.
That's assuming there are only TWO of them.
There could be ten, fifteen, dozens of Dahj's and Soji's scattered across one or more Quadrants.
The devious sunglasses commodore Oh was wearing..
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