Speculation on other Starships we might encounter?

[cooleddie74]

I think we could run into the Farragut since we're at roughly the same time frame that Kirk is serving aboard the ship as a lieutenant. The Tycho IV disaster happens sometime in 2257 and Season 2 of DSC will launch sometime during late 2257.

That doesn't leave much time for Discovery to encounter the Farragut before such a large chunk of her crew is killed off by the dikironium cloud creature but there is some leeway in the chronology to let the two starships meet up before Captain Garrovick dies.

 

[Dukhat]

I think we could run into the Farragut since we're at roughly the same time frame that Kirk is serving aboard the ship as a lieutenant. The Tycho IV disaster happens sometime in 2257 and Season 2 of DSC will launch sometime during late 2257.

That doesn't leave much time for Discovery to encounter the Farragut before such a large chunk of her crew is killed off by the dikironium cloud creature but there is some leeway in the chronology to let the two starships meet up before Captain Garrovick dies.

What's interesting is that the Farragut was one of the ships destroyed by Nero in the Kelvin timeline in 2258, but was most likely built before Nero's incursion in 2233, based on its similarity to the Kelvin. So if we see the Farragut in DSC in 2256, it should technically look like an Abramsverse ship. Think that's going to happen?

 

[cooleddie74]

Well, that was a different Farragut with a different registry number and the one Kirk served on is a Constitution-class starship with the registry NCC-1647, so I doubt it'll be an issue. Just reuse the DSC Enterprise wireframe model and change the registry number on her hull.

 

[Dukhat]

The Kelvin timeline Farragut's registry number is unknown. The Prime timeline Farragut's registry number and class is also unknown and was given the registry and class you state in an official but ultimately non-canon book that can be invalidated at any time. So it's entirely possible they can be the same ship.

 

[cooleddie74]

Eh. I'd make it the Connie with the NCC-1647 registry that Doug Drexler and other Trek luminaries have confirmed as the ship that was mentioned in "Obsession(TOS)." If they don't it's not that big a deal, but the two starships are most likely two completely different vessels from different classes. I hope that would be the road they'd take.

 

[Dukhat]

Let's be real here. They're not going to use a Kelvinverse design in DSC. And if they show the Farragut in DSC (which I doubt), it's possible that they could make it a Discoverse Connie. But until that happens, there's at least canon on-screen evidence that the Prime Farragut could in fact be the same Farragut as the one from the Abramsverse. Drexler and co. from the Berman era have nothing to do with DSC so anything goes at this point.

 

[Prax]

The U.S.S. Lorca, in honor of the fallen hero.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'd be curious to see the USS Kelvin. Putting aside the obvious (it won't look the way it "should" any more than the Enterprise or D7 do), it's one important ship who's Discoverse history I'd like to see.

 

[cooleddie74]

Admiral Richard Robau.

Just saying.

 

[Fandango831]

Another neat ship teased for the upcoming comic. The USS Somerville.

 

[Tuskin38]

That is one ugly ship

It’s got round nacelles though

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Another neat ship teased for the upcoming comic. The USS Somerville.

She kind of looks like Robin Wright on House of Cards:

 

[137th Gebirg]

Looks like it has a Crossfield-style inner ring. Wonder if it has spore drive capability.

 

[fireproof78]

The U.S.S. Lorca, in honor of the fallen hero.

He's not dead yet.

 

[Prax]

"With what I've heard of this place, there's no way my Lorca could've survived. My Lorca is dead." (very paraphrased)

However, if he is alive, what's cooler than coming back and finding out they named a ship after you?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Having fallen into the massive spore core of the "Palace" flagship, there is every reason to believe they can bring him back. He's quite probably stuck in that spore-induced netherworld that the Stami were in at one point. We'll see him again, and maybe the prime universe one as well, possibly even both at the same time.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Having fallen into the massive spore core of the "Palace" flagship, there is every reason to believe they can bring him back. He's quite probably stuck in that spore-induced netherworld that the Stami were in at one point. We'll see him again, and maybe the prime universe one as well, possibly even both at the same time.

Yeah, they definitely left the door open to his return. He could even be the green speck everyone assumes is Culber.

 

[Nightowl1701]

After the solid job they did with the update of the Starfleet ships I just cant fathom why they would cock up the Klingon ships so badly.

Seeing recognisable Klingon vessels engage with the updated Starfleet vessels in the pilot would have been such a simple easy win.

What makes it worse is that it was an unforced error, if time was an issue all they had to do was retexture the existing D7 models and increase the ship size if necessary to make them appear roughly equal to the updated Starfleet ships.

It really makes me wonder what was going through the designers heads.

I didn't think it was possible for it to get any worse and then I saw the new Birds of Prey.

I've thought long and hard about this, and I no longer believe this is an error, forced or unforced. Except for maybe the Veq'largh, none of the Klingon ships look even remotely like Klingon ships of the past, future or even alternate timeline. And it seems pretty apparent that this, like the hairless ultra-alien makeup/Giger-esque costumes, was done on purpose. Never mind the 60's TOS Klingons, there's no way - no conceivable way - that the Klingons we saw in ENT became the ones we've seen here in DSC, then go on to become the Klingons of TMP/TNG onward, without a major course correction. There's a story reason for this seemingly canon-breaking incongruity, one that hasn't been revealed yet.

At least there'd better be...

I think we could run into the Farragut since we're at roughly the same time frame that Kirk is serving aboard the ship as a lieutenant. The Tycho IV disaster happens sometime in 2257 and Season 2 of DSC will launch sometime during late 2257.

That doesn't leave much time for Discovery to encounter the Farragut before such a large chunk of her crew is killed off by the dikironium cloud creature but there is some leeway in the chronology to let the two starships meet up before Captain Garrovick dies.

We're right at the tail end of 2257 now, so more than likely the Farragut's already been destroyed, and a traumatized Kirk is trying to piece himself back together as an midshipman instructor at the Academy at the moment (with Carol Marcus & Gary Mitchell's help).

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

He's not dead yet.

He soon will be, he's very ill. They can keep a placeholder on the ship name for a little while.

 

[Gonzo]

I've thought long and hard about this, and I no longer believe this is an error, forced or unforced. Except for maybe the Veq'largh, none of the Klingon ships look even remotely like Klingon ships of the past, future or even alternate timeline. And it seems pretty apparent that this, like the hairless ultra-alien makeup/Giger-esque costumes, was done on purpose. Never mind the 60's TOS Klingons, there's no way - no conceivable way - that the Klingons we saw in ENT became the ones we've seen here in DSC, then go on to become the Klingons of TMP/TNG onward, without a major course correction. There's a story reason for this seemingly canon-breaking incongruity, one that hasn't been revealed yet.

At least there'd better be...

Must admit I would have been fine if we had got the mostly human looking Klingons we saw back in ToS, would certainly make the actors lives easier in makeup, looked to me like the makeup was as much a problem as the Klingon lines they had to deliver in the pilot.

The events in Enterprise would have easily explained it and made it conceivable that they were still working on a cure or had to wait to literally breed out the human dna the long way, instead we got something that was neither here nor there.

Wonder why they didn't.

There could be a story reason, don't hold your breath though.