Speculation on other Starships we might encounter?
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Someone better than me at MA had saw it wrong too and had it as 1040 for a while. Nice to know they make mistakes too.
But I wonder, this design is old but the Discovery and Glenn are brand new. Does Starfleet order "blocks" of ships when the prototype proves worthy enough and dedicate hull numbers.
If an older looking USS Crossfield (maybe looking more like the teaser version) were launched in the 2190's and worked out okay as the Warp 8 design, they might have reserved 6 more hulls to be built, then shelved the class.
Cue the Klingons attacking the Vulcan colony, Starfleet needs to experiment somewhere out in the depths of space without prying eyes watching everything they do. The class is redesigned and the numbers assigned?
Makes you wonder how many more of them are out there, we didn't see the Glenn coming right in episode 3.
But I wonder, this design is old but the Discovery and Glenn are brand new. Does Starfleet order "blocks" of ships when the prototype proves worthy enough and dedicate hull numbers.
If an older looking USS Crossfield (maybe looking more like the teaser version) were launched in the 2190's and worked out okay as the Warp 8 design, they might have reserved 6 more hulls to be built, then shelved the class.
Cue the Klingons attacking the Vulcan colony, Starfleet needs to experiment somewhere out in the depths of space without prying eyes watching everything they do. The class is redesigned and the numbers assigned?
Makes you wonder how many more of them are out there, we didn't see the Glenn coming right in episode 3.
We have yet to learn whether it takes a Crossfield class ship to fly the new way. Perhaps any old crate would do, but this particular type really is a science ship with just the right combination of lab space and something else for the job?
Having two Crossfields at it is suggestive. But of what? Of the type being expendable and worthless in conventional war, perhaps?
Timo Saloniemi
Having two Crossfields at it is suggestive. But of what? Of the type being expendable and worthless in conventional war, perhaps?
Timo Saloniemi
God I miss this! Starships debates. Yeah I even got my GF who is very tolerant of my StarTrek...obsession to look at the replay for me. I woulda bet a Strip of Gold Pressed Latinum that it was 1030. But its all good either way.
@Timo: I don't think the Crossfields are more expendable I feel that it's probably more to do with the lab requirements...and if you WERE able to jump a ship into the middle of Klingon space to conduct a hit and run raid.. you'd definitely want it to be able to HIT.
@Timo: I don't think the Crossfields are more expendable I feel that it's probably more to do with the lab requirements...and if you WERE able to jump a ship into the middle of Klingon space to conduct a hit and run raid.. you'd definitely want it to be able to HIT.
One wonders... Did the Glenn aim at Klingon space (or the battlefront, at any rate) deliberately, or was that just part of the accident? The respective sporologists don't seem to have much say in tactical matters, so perhaps the Glenn CO wanted to exploit the breakthroughs in a combat or at least recce sortie. Or then any excessively long jump will take a ship from safe to unsafe space in these restless days?
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Memory Alpha lists it as 1030 and that is what I recall as well. I do not think the Glenn meant to get that close, I think something went really wrong, as they were warned might happen. I think the Crossfield classes where picked because they were the newest and most advanced science ships. Likely those two were closest to completion and so got pulled into the project with hand picked crews.
I do not think an older version was made, your looking at the ship design, although there may be more ship classes of this body style.
I do not think an older version was made, your looking at the ship design, although there may be more ship classes of this body style.
It jumped between 1010, 1030 and 1040 until someone posted an actual screenshot from the episode in the talk page showing 1030.
Gabe Koerner's USS Enterprise would be a good fit for the Discoveryverse.
Yeah, no. I’m not taking comm chatter that you can hardly hear (and indeed can’t hear in the directors cut) as canon.
Gabe Koerner's USS Enterprise would be a good fit for the Discoveryverse.
Not any longer without some redesign. The nacells and Dish need reworked and the textures need updated.
My guess would be the class is new. If we can rush build multi-billion dollar ships into service in todays world in the matter of a few years I'm sure Starfleet can do the same in an equal or lesser time considering multiple build sites, near infinite resources, and large amounts of manpower. I equate the Crossfield-Class to the modern Seawolf Submarine Class in some aspects. The USS Seawolf and the USS Jimmy Carter are of the same class of ship but one is just an attack boat and the other is a mission-specialized boat with many extra and advanced features including even its length. My suspicion is that Starfleet caught onto the mycelium research of Stamets and Strall who were tasked with providing a thesis on the use of the Mycelial Network for a new means of FTL travel. During the time frame of them producing this Starfleet Research thesis, Starfleet R&D was prepping and laying the keel for a new class of ship to test bed this new means of travel ala new science vessels that only need be produced in limited number for the mission role. The USS Crossfield is the first of its class with no "Spore Drive" capability. Its sole purpose is to test the base systems needed for ship functionality ala Warp, Impulse, Structural Integrity, Rotation Hardware, New Computer, Etc. During her commissioning phase the keel of the USS Glenn and USS Discovery are laid. As the USS Crossfield conducts her space trials any noted changes and additional features are then brought onto the Glenn and Discovery builds that will actually house the new "Spore Drives". Happening laterally to the builds Stamets and Strall complete their thesis and build outlines and the new drive systems are built into the USS Glenn and USS Discovery during the final building phase of both ships hence why they are sister ships of the class and the USS Crossfield is merely the first since it is not identical in full design or feature. The USS Crossfield is then either sent to duty as a standard science vessel within the fleet, scrapped, or kept as a continued mule for new baseline technology for potentially future class builds. At this point the USS Glenn is launched first followed very closely by the USS Discovery. Both ships fully outfitted with the new "Spore Drive" ready for space trials and then full testing of the new system on board. Hence why the breakthroughs on the USS Glenn are such a big deal and why the Discovery is further behind in its testing as both vessels are still fairly new in the field. This in my mind is the most sound and logical reason why one the Glenn and Discovery are sisters and two why we have no mention of the Crossfield. Hopefully you enjoy my idea 
Gabe Koerner's USS Enterprise would be a good fit for the Discoveryverse.
Mostly. I would say the engines won't fit given the way the series has depicted pretty much all the ships as having more rectangular boxy engines. I don't think the E would fit with her standard tubes anymore. Unfortunately.
I like this idea, actually. Makes perfect sense. In fact, it smacks also of when I was reading all I could about Titanic and her sister ships. Olympic was the first launched, while the keel of both Titanic and Gigantic (later Britannic) were laid. As Olympic sailed, improvements were noted and passed along to the new ships being built.My guess would be the class is new. If we can rush build multi-billion dollar ships into service in todays world in the matter of a few years I'm sure Starfleet can do the same in an equal or lesser time considering multiple build sites, near infinite resources, and large amounts of manpower. I equate the Crossfield-Class to the modern Seawolf Submarine Class in some aspects. The USS Seawolf and the USS Jimmy Carter are of the same class of ship but one is just an attack boat and the other is a mission-specialized boat with many extra and advanced features including even its length. My suspicion is that Starfleet caught onto the mycelium research of Stamets and Strall who were tasked with providing a thesis on the use of the Mycelial Network for a new means of FTL travel. During the time frame of them producing this Starfleet Research thesis, Starfleet R&D was prepping and laying the keel for a new class of ship to test bed this new means of travel ala new science vessels that only need be produced in limited number for the mission role. The USS Crossfield is the first of its class with no "Spore Drive" capability. Its sole purpose is to test the base systems needed for ship functionality ala Warp, Impulse, Structural Integrity, Rotation Hardware, New Computer, Etc. During her commissioning phase the keel of the USS Glenn and USS Discovery are laid. As the USS Crossfield conducts her space trials any noted changes and additional features are then brought onto the Glenn and Discovery builds that will actually house the new "Spore Drives". Happening laterally to the builds Stamets and Strall complete their thesis and build outlines and the new drive systems are built into the USS Glenn and USS Discovery during the final building phase of both ships hence why they are sister ships of the class and the USS Crossfield is merely the first since it is not identical in full design or feature. The USS Crossfield is then either sent to duty as a standard science vessel within the fleet, scrapped, or kept as a continued mule for new baseline technology for potentially future class builds. At this point the USS Glenn is launched first followed very closely by the USS Discovery. Both ships fully outfitted with the new "Spore Drive" ready for space trials and then full testing of the new system on board. Hence why the breakthroughs on the USS Glenn are such a big deal and why the Discovery is further behind in its testing as both vessels are still fairly new in the field. This in my mind is the most sound and logical reason why one the Glenn and Discovery are sisters and two why we have no mention of the Crossfield. Hopefully you enjoy my idea
One wrinkle is that after Titanic sank, improvements were then made to Olympic and Britannic, such as higher walls for the watertight bulkheads, higher capacity lifeboat davits, etc.
The primary reason I think there are only the three Crossfield-Class starships is all due to mission need and resource. If the project has two Mission Specialists - Stamets and Strall then from the point of reason and logic you're not going to make more than you need in terms of mission capable vessels in ratio to people who actually know what to do with them. The USS Crossfield being a test bed vessel is merely for all intents and purposes a standard Starfleet ship meaning it requires no Mission Specialists to test the form and function of the new hull design and core systems. However since the USS Glenn and USS Discovery are both mission specialized vessels they require their respective Mission Specialists to oversee the experimental drive systems hence why Stamets gets mad about being split up between the two vessels. Starfleet needs them there to run the show since they came up with the bloody idea lol. Kinda like Daystrom and M5. So since they have no more Mission Specialists (Project Leads) they have no reason to burn more resources on vessels they can't test or for that matter use in general without massive risk. Hence why both ships are invaluable and their project leads more so. The death of Strall is more a critical blow to the overall project than the USS Glenn since if he had lived they could have either refitted the Crossfield (presuming it's still active) or built another ship using the same "Spore Drive" blueprints. However with his death that leaves only Stamets as the last remaining expert on the material until it is either proven to not be viable and scrubbed, or becomes something viable for personnel to handle and more ships can be built with briefed/trained crews. Since Star Trek Discovery is Prime though we already know that this tech doesn't make it past TOS for some reason or the other.
Nah it is 1030
Just some FYI man. I took this and changed the light curves, it is clearly 1030
