Speculation about Valeris after 'time served'....

[Hoshi_Mayweather]

Valeris thought she was correct in her assumptions that a Klingon/Federation union would not work...{I wonder what she would have thought when Gowron--in the 24th century-- ceased the alliance, and attacked Starfleet vessels!}

As she was possibly still alive and well in the 24th century, do you think Valeris changed in her views? Obviously, she wasn't reinstated into Starfleet, as she was responsible for the deaths of two officers; but, she probably went back to Vulcan, or started her own 'Maquis'...

{Speaking of Maquis, she seemed somewhat the type to join the cause against Cardassians; although, one could argue she might not see Cardassians and Klingons in the same light}...

What do you think?

 

[Timo]

I think a Vulcan might talk herself out of the murder charges, at least in the Vulcan context. After all, Vulcans can and will commit murder when it's logical.

Valeris could simply outline the logic of her actions to the court and avoid becoming a pariah in the Vulcan society, even if Starfleet shunned her. Where she would go from there is unclear, but Vulcans in TOS and ENT at least seem to be rather stubborn in their views. So a future as an outspoken opponent of the UFP/KE alliance sounds pretty likely!

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Plum]

... assuming she isn't cooling her heels in life imprisonment. She was part of a murderous conspiracy against the Federation. That's treason! As a star fleet officer she might get the death penalty, I would guess.

 

[InklingStar]

The only death penalty left on the books was going to Talos IV, so I doubt she was executed. Accidently vaporised (or heavy stun close range) perhaps, though.

 

[Hoshi_Mayweather]

For some reason, I always thought that Joseph Sisko was a rehabilitated 'Admiral Cartwright' {put in status, with a new identity} and 'found the light' when The Prophets found him...

Valeris could have undergone some sort of Vulcan ritual that made her a changed woman as well...{if logic dictated, of course}...

 

[Timo]

She was part of a murderous conspiracy against the Federation. That's treason!

To be sure, all she is known to have conspired to was kill the leader of the evil enemy Klingon Empire. For all we know, for all she knew, the plan at Khitomer was to assassinate the next leader of this evil enemy empire, Azetbuhr. Starfleet usually gives out medals for stuff like that, not death penalties.

Fun mental image about the rehabilitated Cartwright, tho.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[cardinal biggles]

She still would have gotten life for murdering Burke and Samno.

 

[Nerys Myk]

She was shanked in the yard by a klingon prisoner. you dont off the Klingon Chancellor (even a peacenik one) with out some payback.

 

[Jack Bauer]

She bunked with a descendant of Martha Stewart and made doilies for 30 years.

 

[Ronald Held]

That would be the least of her crimes neccesitating a life sentence.

 

[The Castellan]

Plus I think that order was lifted once Pike returned to Talos, since it seemed rather moot now.

Plus it was the only death-sentence applicable crime, and since it's done with, I don't think Valeris would have gotten the gallows. Plus she DID kill the assassins.....so I think that slick Vulcan intellect might be able to reason out that bit Would have been cool to see who her girlfriend in prison might have been though.





Mmmmmm, Pon'far in the Province.

 

[Timo]

Plus I think that order was lifted once Pike returned to Talos, since it seemed rather moot now.

Sulu still referred to it in "Turnabout Intruder", though. Or at least he referred to a single remaining death penalty, which at that time was for violation of General Order Four. Going to Talos had been a violation of General Order Seven, and had also been referred to as the last death penalty in the books. Perhaps somebody in Starfleet is nostalgic about gallows and always comes up with a final final violation?

In any case, TOS suggests that there no longer are prisons in the Trek universe in the 23rd century. Criminals are considered insane and are subjected to treatment, which in most cases is quickly completed and only in extremely rare difficult cases necessitates locking up the patient in an asylum. The 24th century seems to be similar: "punishment" for anything ranging from smuggling of weapons or medicines to attempted genocide to criminal negligience and coverup is six months of rehabilitation therapy.

So which way would it go with Valeris? Cured in two days, meaning that she would (at least theoretically) no longer be prone to committing her original thought crime of wrongful patriotism? Or deemed incurable and kept in Tantalus or Elba II for the rest of her life, but with her original logic and political views intact till the bitter end?

Timo Saloniemi