Sony Spider-Verse discussion thread
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I get it.
It's in reverse.
They introduce the villains one by one, and then in the climax of Sinister Six movie part 1, we get a brand new 16 year old Spider-Man, moments after Tom Holland retires.
It's in reverse.
They introduce the villains one by one, and then in the climax of Sinister Six movie part 1, we get a brand new 16 year old Spider-Man, moments after Tom Holland retires.
I just hope that the "new" Peter Parker never hears about how Cassie Webb knew the bad shit that was gonna go down in his life and didn't bother to say anything.
"Oh hey, Pete. Happy birthday. Did I ever tell you about how I knew that your parents were going to die but instead of doing anything about it I just made a cryptic joke?"
"Oh hey, Pete. Happy birthday. Did I ever tell you about how I knew that your parents were going to die but instead of doing anything about it I just made a cryptic joke?"
Are you planning to?
I keep forgetting it exists
I keep running into that same problem.
Maybe someday I'll watch it for pure MST3K value but only if it's with someone else who wants to do the same.
Maybe someday I'll watch it for pure MST3K value but only if it's with someone else who wants to do the same.
Or just make some 'bots.
Forgetting what exists?
She spends the movie using her visions of the future to avoid the deaths of several characters.
But at the end of the movie, when someone mentions that Ben (Parker) is gonna love being an uncle because it's "all of the fun, none of the responsibility", Cassie smirks and says, "That's what he thinks."
Maybe Webb (the character) is a horror-show, but just because she could figure out that Ben was going to raise Peter, it doesn't mean that she's seen the exact details of the transference of responsibility.
Granted, but it hardly seems like a cause for humor (and a joke that literally only she can appreciate, no less) instead of "Oh gee, I hope nothing bad happened and that's why neither of his parents are around any more."
...Having Guy Gardner make a concise point about a post instead of twisting it into a dick joke or something is terribly disconcerting.
...Having Guy Gardner make a concise point about a post instead of twisting it into a dick joke or something is terribly disconcerting.
Granted, but it hardly seems like a cause for humor (and a joke that literally only she can appreciate, no less) instead of "Oh gee, I hope nothing bad happened and that's why neither of his parents are around any more."
...Having Guy Gardner make a concise point about a post instead of twisting it into a dick joke or something is terribly disconcerting.
In the comics, Richard and Mary were S.H.I.E.L.D. agents who were murdered by the Red Skull.
In the Andy Garfield movies, Mom and dad's industrial espionage got so dangerous, that Richard and Mary put bubs into hiding/outside the killbox with Ben and May... Did Norman Osborn have them killed?
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That's pretty messed up.
No, that's a lot of reaching just to crap on an already pretty terrible film.
It's literally just a joke about the fact that Ben thinks he's going to get to be fun an chaotic as the visiting uncle when in fact he's going to end up raising Peter more like his own son. It makes no judgements about the deaths of Peter's parents and in no way suggests that Cassandra is somehow ignorant of, or indifferent to, the pain that results.
However, given that she sees the futures of all the Spider-girls, and the traditional relationship between Pete and Madame Webb, it's a fair guess that Cassandra already knows that Peter is destined to be Spider-Man. Would YOU change anything on that path if you saw the good the boy would do? No, me either. Pain and loss suck, but hardship forges heroes.
Ever read "To Kill a Legend?" There can be other ways.
I'm reminded of Kamen Rider Geats, which I just finished watching on Tubi.
The series premise revolved around the Riders competing in a reality show run by people from the future, and one of the main antagonists was basically a metatextual satire of toxic fans. He was a traditionalist who believed that Kamen Riders had to be tortured souls shaped by tragedy, so he latched on to the most idealistic and caring Rider as his personal project and set out to make him suffer loss, grief, and rage to turn him into a "true Kamen Rider." The Rider finally triumphed over him by rejecting the idea that tragedy and darkness were his only path to becoming a true hero.
I'm not saying that she's ignorant or indifferent. I'm saying she makes a joke about something that she could absolutely do something about but clearly doesn't. Or isn't able to.
I don't need to reach to shit on Madame Web. The filmmakers did that for me.