Sony Spider-Verse discussion thread

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  1. Turtletrekker

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    Or maybe an appearance by Spider-Man that leads into a Kraven appearance in a Spider-Man movie.
     
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    Kraven's Last Hunt as his first appearance is as wrong-headed as say, doing Dark Knight Returns as Batman's first appearance. :shifty:
     
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    Maybe if Cavill leaves the DC movies they'll reboot Superman with a story based on Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Or, they could introduce Hal Jordan by adapting Zero Hour. Better yet, introduce Blue Beetle, Elongated Man and Sue Dibny with an adaptation of Identity Crisis :rommie:
     
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    ^Was that posted in the proper thread?:confused::wtf:
     
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    If you're talking to me, I was following up on the comments/jokes about Kraven debuting in a story based off Kraven's last Hunt with some DC comics examples that would be similar (which go along with the reference to batman debuting in a version of The dark Knight Returns).
     
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    Maybe, but both filmmakers and audiences are too impatient for that to happen.

    Well Goyer had already made his Beginning not long ago.

    That would at least be better than the bland origin story already done.
     
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  8. Alidar Jarok

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    Yeah, it would be hard for me to be interested without Spike Lee. Don't get me wrong, of all the Sony properties, it's at least one that clearly stands on its own. But it's also an extremely obscure character with a convoluted backstory so I could see some difficulties getting mass appeal unless it's a really well-written script.
     
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    That's all you really need. If an entirely original movie with characters that never existed before can win an audience, then there's no reason why adapted characters should have to be well-known in advance. Heck, I doubt most people who watched Men in Black or Kingsman or Big Hero 6 even knew they were based on comics.

    And heck, if someone doesn't bother to write a good script because they expect audience familiarity alone to cut it, then they're being lazy and taking the audience for granted, in which case their film deserves to fail. Writing a good script should be a given regardless of whether it's a brand-new concept, an adaptation of an obscure concept, or a sequel to a huge hit franchise.
     
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    However, studios buy these IPs because they have built in name recognition that will help boost the audience. I'd also argue some source material is easier to create a good script from than others.
     
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    Sometimes, yes. But they also buy original scripts that can't possibly have any name recognition. And they buy movie options to novels or comics that haven't even been published yet, because they think their stories would make good movies. Name recognition is a bonus, but the tendency of laypeople to talk about it as if it were the exclusive or overriding criterion just makes no sense. If the characters don't have name recognition, that's what you hire famous actors or directors for. Hardly anybody had heard of the Men in Black comic, but they sure knew who Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones were.

    The first priority for studios is simply to have content. They need stuff they can make movies out of, and they'll take it from anywhere they can get it, because that's the only way to get enough stuff. After all, only a tiny percentage of movies that are put into development actually get made. So they have to be voracious when it comes to buying content. They can't be prejudiced against something just because it isn't already famous. Their job is to make it famous.


    I don't believe in blanket generalizations. Many of the best movies are the ones that defy expectations, the ones that nobody thought could possibly work. And an adaptation can be anything from a religiously accurate retelling (e.g. the Harry Potter movies) to an almost completely new story that just uses a few character names and broad concepts from the source (e.g. Big Hero 6 or most any Philip K. Dick adaptation). Sometimes the source is just a starting point.
     
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    Well with his complexion he’s definitely a vampire
     
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    Yahoo reports that Felicity Jones would be interested in reprising Felicia Hardy in the Black Cat movie.

    I haven't seen Spider-Man 2 in many years (I'm not a fan of any of the Raimi films) so, while I know Jones was in it, I don't remember her as Hardy at all. However, I love Jones' other films and I would be up for her reprising the role, even though I seriously doubt that it would happen.
     
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    She was in Amazing Spider-Man 2. Not Raimi’s Spider-Man 2
     
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    Oh, right. Brain fart. No wonder I don't remember her. ;)
     
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    Of course she would. Ask any actor the question "Would you like to get a job?" and they'll say yes, because it's a job and they get paid for it. I am so sick of people taking the obvious, trivial fact that working actors are interested in getting work and reporting it as if it were actually some kind of "news." It's never news that an actor wants a job. It's only news if the actor gets the job. Otherwise it's just empty noise to fill column space.

    In other news, the Sun is expected to set in the west this evening, and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
     
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    Gods, you're such a killjoy.
     
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