Sons of Anarchy - The Final Season

[137th Gebirg]

I don't think anyone questions the destination. Personally I think everyone's gonna die and only Chuckie lives and rides off into the sunset on his scooter. It's the rather byzantine and sometimes hard-to-suspend-disbelief journey that has some people scratching their heads.

 

[Shanndee]

Agreed. I think we all knew from season 1 that this was going to end in massive amounts of blood. The problem is with the story telling, the loss of characterization, the loss of plot, and the dumbing down of...everything.

I continue to watch to see how it ends. But it is aggravating to watch a show that I used to have a truly unreasonable amount of love for falling in such an out of control death spiral.

I mean, what was with Jury's suggestion that JT may have been a suicide??? Seriously? This was an obvious opportunity to tell Jax about Gemma being the mastermind of that attack. This would have moved the plot forward. But no!

There are only, what?, 5 episodes left? And nothing is being addressed.

WTF?

 

[doubleohfive]

Meh. I've enjoyed the series as a whole. I'll reserve my judgment on the final season till after I've seen it through to its conclusion.

Though I was quite surprised with the scene between Nero and Wendy when he suggested she bring the kids with him to the farm. Can I call 'em or what?

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ Yeah, I think that's just the writers setting up a rebound net for Nero in the highly likely event of Gemma's demise from her collective sins.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Agreed. I think we all knew from season 1 that this was going to end in massive amounts of blood. The problem is with the story telling, the loss of characterization, the loss of plot, and the dumbing down of...everything.

I continue to watch to see how it ends. But it is aggravating to watch a show that I used to have a truly unreasonable amount of love for falling in such an out of control death spiral.

I mean, what was with Jury's suggestion that JT may have been a suicide??? Seriously? This was an obvious opportunity to tell Jax about Gemma being the mastermind of that attack. This would have moved the plot forward. But no!

There are only, what?, 5 episodes left? And nothing is being addressed.

WTF?

That's been aggravating since season 3 for me, Sutter holds on to characters far too long on the show. The various ways to keep Clay from being killed, Tara staying or going, Gemma's plots and cover-ups not coming to light just to keep the series going has been a great impediment to the story flow.

The Irish letters could have led to Clay dying in season 4 or early 5. Bring in Pope the way they did rather than the nonsense with the CIA, have Gemma screw up and kill Tara in 5 and Jax go on a tear destroying the club because he realizes Opie was right the Club isn't worth shit and has eaten up their lives. They could cut out a year at least, even two, and have a much tighter and energetically dramatic show.

 

[Shanndee]

Yes! That's what Hubby and I have been saying. There was probably 5 seasons worth of good material. Milking it to 7 kind of killed the cash cow.

 

[Beagleman]

Agreed, too many detours, 5 to 5 1/2 seasons would have made it much tighter. Well, even showrunners gotta eat. And IMO yes, almost everyone is a goner. (Chibs as Horatio makes a lot of sense btw) I still think it would be funny if the only surviving Sons are Juice and maybe Ratboy.

 

[Yoda]

So, this week's episode had "All Along the Watchtower" montages to start with and close. You win Sutter, you've clearly gone farther into the deep end than Ronald D Moore did on BSG. Nice reference though.

Not to mention Jax getting mailed a body part again 2 eps in a row. Will we get a third Bobby part next week? Or do they finally have enough plot to move things along? Why does Nero think that Jax will let his kids retire to the farm? Was he not around the last two or three times they were put in mortal danger?

Was really hoping that the Chibs pep-talk to Jax on the rooftop scene(s) were going to end in a drone strike.

THIS IS NOT ON YOU JACKIE BOY YERSUCHA GOOOD LEADER LADDIE!!!!

MARKS IS SO SMART, ZERO VULNERABILITIES!!!!

 

[Gov Kodos]

Yeah, the conversation over Marks was lame. The man straight up told Jax that if he thought he was being fucked with he'd just kill Jax and the Sons. The whole reaction from him wasn't from smarts or lack of vulnerabilities just a plain remorseless killer who will not tolerate someone screwing with him. Jax thought plausible deniability would work with a man who told him from the outset that that was not how he operated. Marks isn't some DA needing to make a case stick for Christ's sake.

Jax didn't underestimate Marks, Jax was too stupid to realize who he was dealing with. The whole commentary Marks made about the difference between him and Pope was a straight up warning. Especially, as Marks no doubt is sure Jax killed Pope so the warning should have been doubly to the point to young Mr Teller.

 

[Shanndee]

Hey, HIjol and lennier1 (and anyone else interested!):

Have you read Ron Perlman's memoir "Easy Street (the Hard Way)"? I am almost half way through.

Wow...and I thought I liked the man before!

It is a really interesting, thoughtful read. I'd recommend looking it up!

 

[Beagleman]

^
Oh wow, I didn't even know he wrote a memoir, now I have to check it out (thanks for the heads up). I've always been a fan of his work and he seems to be a really great guy.

 

[Shanndee]

No problem! I think it was only released in September, so it is quite new.

If you read it, let me know what you think. I'd love to talk with someone about it!

 

[Beagleman]

If you read it, let me know what you think. I'd love to talk with someone about it!

Will do! Already ordered it.

 

[Shanndee]

Oh good! Looking forward to it!

 

[Smellincoffee]

I'm re-watching season 1 of The Vikings in anticipation of buying season 2.

 

[doubleohfive]

Poor Bobby. Can't say I was surprised by that outcome given the last few episodes, but still. Gemma really has it coming, methinks.

Does anyone else think Juice is going to off himself now that he's in solitary? And that perhaps Unser has finally put it all together that Gemma killed Tara and covered it up with Juice's help?

 

[Shanndee]

I do think that Juice will finally kill himself. He can't stand to be alone as a free man, being in that tiny, sterile cell will finish him.

I think Unser is getting close to figuring it out. But the question is, has he seen enough death and destruction to finally act, or has he got a bit more to go before he is horrified enough to act?

I wish I felt bad about Bobby. The show has slowly been reducing the amount of "character" everyone has. I understand that it is purposeful, so that we don't empathize too much with these despicable people as they receive their "reckoning"...but it would be nice if I saw enough of the original character qualities left to care a little.

 

[Beagleman]

I wish I felt bad about Bobby. The show has slowly been reducing the amount of "character" everyone has. I understand that it is purposeful, so that we don't empathize too much with these despicable people as they receive their "reckoning"...but it would be nice if I saw enough of the original character qualities left to care a little.

I know what you mean and I think it's a kinda cheap cop-out.
After the demise of Piney and Opie Bobby and (to a certain degree) Chibs were the only ones left trying to steer the club into a better direction but over time more and more of that was sadly dropped.

 

[Yoda]

"I'm just policing my quadrant the only way I know how by the 'rules' of this town. Now fuck me on my patrol car while another greasy biker watches!"

Yep, worst sheriff ever.

 

[Beagleman]

"I'm just policing my quadrant the only way I know how by the 'rules' of this town. Now fuck me on my patrol car while another greasy biker watches!"

Yep, worst sheriff ever.

Yeah, that was just... WTF?