^ Yeah, I don't think they actually had a full-time Starfleet counsellor during the series run.
In the relaunch, OTOH, they do. Hugh Cambridge is his name.
In the relaunch, OTOH, they do. Hugh Cambridge is his name.
Something that really doesn't make sense in Voyager
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Fine, how about Janeway giving that job to someone who is somewhat qualified at this and isn't the most annoying person on the ship. There had to be an ensign with a minor in psychology or something, that would be better then getting psychological help from a fry cook/garbage man.
I thought Chakotay was considered the unofficial counselor (before Dr. House took over in the books.) Neelix was just there to make food and throw parties.
Also, I much prefer to believe someone has to scrub the holodecks after they're used. It just seems like a great way to haze some poor crewman.
Because nuBSG is the only show with drama and tension amongst its cast of characters? No, it's not. Just because someone wants something more out of Voyager does not mean instant comparisons to nuBSG. I swear, if someone complains that there wasn't enough coffee on Voyager to make Janeway happy, somehow someway it's nuBSG's fault.
As for the Maquis and Starfleet not having serious issues to work through, I'd like to remind you that Voyager was hunting a group Starfleet had deemed as criminals and terrorists, and that much of the first episode was about addressing those issues. If that's not major, then what's the point of bringing in two different crews together in the first place? If the tension wasn't intended to cause some sort of conflict, why were we reminded of the Maquis (Chakotay's training, B'lanna's caught in the war, etc etc) every few episodes or so?
These days, whenever someone says VOY wasn't any good they always use NuBSG as a comparison. They also forget the unavoidable, fundamental differences between the two.
And no, when you get to the bottom of it there AREN'T enough differences between the Fleeters and Maquis for realistic conflict: The shows never bothered establishing just what the "Maquis Way" was, how they really differed from the Feds, or anything beyond them being non-Feds who were fighting the Cardassians (NOT the Federation).
The worst thing is, they didn't even HAVE to go to the trouble of creating the Maquis to begin with; they had a perfect opposing force to go along with the Fleeters in the form of the Romulans. All they had to do was rewrite the plot so it's the Neutral Zone they're exploring after hearing a distress call and they get sucked to the Caretaker where they escape with the help of a Romulan ship that also got pulled there.
THEN you'd have a show about real enemies with REAL differences.
And no, when you get to the bottom of it there AREN'T enough differences between the Fleeters and Maquis for realistic conflict: The shows never bothered establishing just what the "Maquis Way" was, how they really differed from the Feds, or anything beyond them being non-Feds who were fighting the Cardassians (NOT the Federation).
The worst thing is, they didn't even HAVE to go to the trouble of creating the Maquis to begin with; they had a perfect opposing force to go along with the Fleeters in the form of the Romulans. All they had to do was rewrite the plot so it's the Neutral Zone they're exploring after hearing a distress call and they get sucked to the Caretaker where they escape with the help of a Romulan ship that also got pulled there.
THEN you'd have a show about real enemies with REAL differences.
I think there is a middle ground between making Voyager into BSG and making it into a poor man's TNG, which is what it was for the first couple of seasons. The fact that Voyager wasn't BSG wasn't the problem, the fact that it didn't stick to its original premise was.
So if the holodeck can replicate real food, food that exists when taken off the holodeck and the holodeck has plenty of power reserves because of its isolated and incompatible power system, then why was food ever a concern to the point where they had to set up a kitchen and implement replicator rations? Why didn't they just replicate all the food they needed on the holodeck?
That's a bloody good point. They could have just set up the mess hall in there...
Let’s assume the reason that didn’t happen is not “Duh, we never thought of that.” So I figure holographic food must be made of holo-matter. In that case, I guess they still could set up a mess hall in there, but at an awful price...
That’s assuming holomatter and common matter can interact chemically, but if they can’t, that food won’t taste like much.
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^ Like I said, holodeck food is NOT holomatter. It's replicated, just like from a replicator.
And since replication takes a lot of energy, they couldn't keep asking the holodeck for food. Why do you think they had replicator rations?
And since replication takes a lot of energy, they couldn't keep asking the holodeck for food. Why do you think they had replicator rations?
Let’s see if I grok where we’re going with this. That practically unlimited but untappable holodeck power supply is used for creating and manipulating holomatter. The holodeck can also replicate common matter, but when it replicates common matter it uses a replicator system that uses main ship power, instead of the holodeck’s power.
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^ Pretty much, yeah.
I’m still left with the question of whether holomatter and common matter can chemically bond.
And the question of just how much of a hopeless geek I am that I would even think of that question let alone give a damn.
And the question of how geeky you all are that I actually expect to get intelligent answers.
And the question of just how much of a hopeless geek I am that I would even think of that question let alone give a damn.
And the question of how geeky you all are that I actually expect to get intelligent answers.
There is no such thing as holo-MATTER, as such. Holo-anything is simply energy projected by the computer. It's not matter.
You don't fully understand what being cohesive implies.
It implies making a statement that signs an agreement with any discipline in the field your studying- in this case the holo-decks. They must be first at hand and next to anybody on the ship. The holo-decks include technology, along with the replicators, that is far more advanced than most of the ship.
If different batteries are required for the holo-system-and not the replicators- that means they might be dedicated to your own intimate systems.
It implies making a statement that signs an agreement with any discipline in the field your studying- in this case the holo-decks. They must be first at hand and next to anybody on the ship. The holo-decks include technology, along with the replicators, that is far more advanced than most of the ship.
If different batteries are required for the holo-system-and not the replicators- that means they might be dedicated to your own intimate systems.
You had all those engineers running around and someone couldn't figure out how to make he replicators run off of the holodeck power grid?
And why does the holodeck have a different power grid to begin with... it is one of the most inconsequential systems on an entire damn starship. Plus it seemingly violates what was laid down in Booby Trap, where Geordi had to request power to continue running holographic simulations.
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