so... you guys like the freedom class?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by AlphaPigeon7, Mar 6, 2019.


freedom class

  1. yes

  2. no

  1. AlphaPigeon7

    AlphaPigeon7 Ensign Newbie

    Feb 9, 2019
    Starbase 1
  2. Mutai Sho-Rin

    Mutai Sho-Rin Crusty Old Bastard Moderator

    Jul 31, 2001
    Orange, CA USA
    I’ve never seen this before. Does it appear anywhere in the series? If not, it doesn’t belong here in TNG.
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  3. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 23, 2017
    One of the ships in Wolf 359. You see a damaged version of it briefly in BoBW.

    Not particularly. The New Orleans Class is my favourite there.
  4. USS Firefly

    USS Firefly Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jan 7, 2013
    I don't think we have ever seen her class onscreen in any of the shows, ok I missed her then in BOBW.
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  5. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Aug 26, 2003
    One of the might-have-beens: Greg Jein went to the trouble of casting a custom saucer for this one (and for the three-nacelled Niagara) to create a model that with a little more work could have been a proper, lit and motion-controlled photographic model for close-ups.

    Today, it's so much easier to whip up "kitbashes" that are actually made of 100% custom-built elements and merely tip their saucers to the "general spirit" or "design ethos" of the hero ship of the day instead of directly recycling her parts... But Jein's single-naceller is a worthy stablemate for the TNG hero vessel, and a sad reminder that the E-D never really got an entourage of fitting designs to accompany her. The only two designs sharing the "design ethos" thing and actually having screen time were the Nebula and the Akira; a number of smaller or more distinct companions would have done the show good, and allowed the franchise to save the TOS movie designs for creating the proper "era feel" for other spinoffs.

    Timo Saloniemi
  6. Herbert

    Herbert Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Apr 20, 2017
    CT - Yay! More taxes and possibly tolls.
    What........the.......f***??? That is horrible. :guffaw:
    A single nacelle design could work just not this one. Having the saucer on top like that just looks goofy and unwieldy.
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  7. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Sep 28, 2009
    The glorious Shetland Isles!
    A 24th century version of the Saladin-Class. I'm quite "meh" towards her.
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  8. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 26, 2007
    Maryland, USA
    It's a fantastic design, just like Jein's other Wolf 359 ship, the Niagara class Princeton. He was clearly inspired by Franz Joseph when he came up with these ships.
  9. trekshark

    trekshark Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 6, 2014
    Sort of like it, I voted yes.
  10. Finn

    Finn Admiral Admiral

    Mar 30, 2006
    I really wish they did less kitbashes for the Wolf 359 graveyard..
  11. BetaHazard

    BetaHazard Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    Sep 27, 2018
    :shrug:It's just okay. It's pretty bad compared to other TNG-era ships, but it's not THAT bad.
    Edit: Eaglemoss has one, and it looks pretty bad. (Not Eaglemoss's fault, I mean the ship itself)
  12. Tenacity

    Tenacity Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jul 14, 2016
    Engine seems oversized for the size of the saucer. reduce the engine dimensions by say a quarter to a third and it would (imho ) be better.

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  13. XCV330

    XCV330 A Being of Pure Caffeine Premium Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    jippers on a beach somewhere
    Single nacelle ships are interesting but there's always that "Why?" question. Did they have a shortage at NacelleMart or is it some kind of training ship for captains that aren't ready for their Class 1 license yet.

    I like the Kelvin but for some reason it looks better with the secondary hull attached, has a kind of symmetry. But it does look like the natural progress from Hermes/Saladin
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  14. Mutai Sho-Rin

    Mutai Sho-Rin Crusty Old Bastard Moderator

    Jul 31, 2001
    Orange, CA USA
    Maybe it’s like a single engine pilot’s license vs. twin. Whole lot mort training so that second engine can get you to the crash site.
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  15. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Nov 5, 2008
    A type 13 planet in its final stage
  16. PhotoBoy

    PhotoBoy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Nov 4, 2001
    The Mushroom Kingdom
    ^ Woah, that's an interesting design. Why was it never used? And is that the top or bottom of the ship? :lol:
  17. sumbuddyx

    sumbuddyx Captain Captain

    Nov 14, 2014
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  18. StametsFungi

    StametsFungi Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Feb 14, 2019
    Maybe it only has 1 Nacelle as 1 Nacelle can create a bubble to encompass such a small ship and it saves a heck of a lot of energy? I know Miranda & Oberth classes have 2 but they use older style Nacelles.
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  19. penguin44

    penguin44 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Feb 19, 2019
    Where is the impulse drive on this thing?
  20. tharpdevenport

    tharpdevenport Admiral Admiral

    This is ugly. And so is that one that wasn't used for D.S.9..

    And I recall that Gene had some "reason" that the ships had two nacelles, so this tosses that out having one.
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