So what would you like CBS to do with a new Star Trek TV show?

[urbandk]

I imagine there will be something like the debut of TNG after a couple successful Trek movies. I think it will probably be contemporaneous with the new movies, since to be set in the TNG future would presume a lot of stuff about what happens in the movies and take away some of the suspense.

Other Space Opera is just Sci Fi that isn't Star Trek. If Star Trek's star continues to rise, I'd expect a TV show to capitalize on this lucrative property. I think a big test will be the next film.

This first one pulled off a major accomplishment in turning Star Trek into a summer hit franchise but also had good publicity and great reviews to help it. There was also a novelty factor of a new crew playing roles made famous by other actors.

Paramount needs to move fast to capitalize on this film with another one lest too much momentum dissipate.

 

[C.E. Evans]

CBS should pick out a new cast to play Kirk and the gang and just do their own 100% reboot of TOS. At this point, there's really no reason to maintain any kind of synergy between Trek's TV and movie divisions, IMO...

 

[GhostFaceSaint]

CBS should pick out a new cast to play Kirk and the gang and just do their own 100% reboot of TOS. At this point, there's really no reason to maintain any kind of synergy between Trek's TV and movie divisions, IMO...

I think that would be too much for the Trek fan's to swallow, also it would confuse the casual viewer too much.

 

[Shazam!]

Star Trek is a franchise and it has successfully created other characters outside of Kirk and company before, what's to stop them from successfully doing so again?

So why did they 'reboot' it?

Kirk and co. are the selling point. I highly doubt that anyone outside of the Trek community is interested in the adventures of Captain Newbie and his crew in a glorified Elseworlds series. If there is a new TV show set in the new universe, Kirk and Spock need to be involved in some capacity otherwise it may as well be in the 'prime' universe.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

1. I want CBS to make a financially successful Star Trek that will ensure Trek on TV for years to come.

2. I want a post-Dominion-War DS9 spinoff with Garak as the main character leading the revived Obsidian Order in a covert war of vengeance against the Dominion while his erstwhile Starfleet chums try to stop him.

But I know #1 conflicts directly with #2, so it will have to be #1. Which will be 23rd C, Abrams-verse, with characters introduced in the next Trek movie, and cameos by the movie characters, dealing with a starship going boldly. Semi-serialized. Nothing fancy.

A TV show set in the new universe with a new cast would scream "What's the point?" to me. A starfleet ship exploring space with brand new characters? Did we really need a reboot for that?

We needed a reboot to lead to a successful movie to lead to the possibility that a new TV series would exist at all.

For me, the content isn't the biggest question. It's where the show should air. Can't be CBS, totally wrong audience. Would they license it to NBC or Fox?

If you want a Star Trek tv series better hope Defying Gravity does well.

I think that could flop without harming Trek. I sure hope so anyway; I think ABC is the wrong place for space opera. Not as wrong as CBS, but they're trying to soap-up Defying Gravity to appeal to a female audience and that's going to be gurrghghguuuhhh.

At this point, there's really no reason to maintain any kind of synergy between Trek's TV and movie divisions, IMO...

Other than that the whole point of doing a show would be to piggyback on Paramount's success.

Star Trek is a franchise and it has successfully created other characters outside of Kirk and company before, what's to stop them from successfully doing so again?

So why did they 'reboot' it?

Kirk and co. are the selling point.

At this point, the brand has been revitalized. Kirk and Spock have helped to make Star Trek the selling point again, to both the general public, who now might actually deign to check out a Star Trek series rather than holding their nose at the very idea, and very importantly, it has revitalized Star Trek's credibility among the bean counters who have veto control over the franchise. That alone is a very big step for the franchise.

Star Trek is the selling point; what Star Trek means remains to be defined. As long as everyone is smart about how they carry out this redefinition, the selling point could encompass Kirk, Spock, Star Trek, and Captain Nobody and the gang. That's what brand building is about, and Star Trek is now embarked on a long-term brand-building venture.

 

[xortex]

It's got to be reimagined else what is the art director gonna do with his pay. I say keep reimagining it till you get it right whatever that means. nut you're right Shazam, Kirk and Spock have got to be in it. I say have the older phase two Kirk on t.v. and the younger more brash one looking to blow up things and make mistakes in the movies. parallel to each other. Why should consistancy be soo hard. What's the big deal about avoiding what has gone on before. I still like the Ralph Mcquarrie phase two Enterprise. Aw, give it a chance.

 

[Tarek71]

If the show is about the TOS Enterprise characters it will almost certainly be recast. The only question is JJverse or some other verse. Id rather they ignore the JJverse and depict something more like the original timeline for several reasons, including but not limited to:

1. Pike was one of the Enterprises legendary captains. Instead hes captain for what seems like less that 24 hours and is immediately replaced. Apparently the silly scene of twentysomething Kirk watching the Enterprise being built in Iowa is why any April/Pike Enterprise prehistory is eliminated. It wasnt that great a scene to be worth losing that.

And I dont like anything along the lines of "oh Pike was probably still a legend, just on some other ship". He was Captain of the Enterprise.

2. No 3rd year Cadet captains. Its absurd. Everyone has a learning curve. It doesnt matter how high your scores or aptitudes are, you have to face the real life situations over years and get better. Theres a world of difference between potential and experience. The bits that we did have from TOS of Kirks past showed that he wasnt always stellar despite a chestful of medals. He was able to recount how he too once froze in a critical situation ("Obsession") with lives on the line, blaming himself for years for the deaths many many others. That humanized him and had to help form him. Far too much of Kirks formative backstory was jettisoned in Trek XI just so that they could go from his birth to Captaincy in one film. The idea that he can just swagger unto the bridge as a cadet and seemlessly command is nonsense.

3. Vulcan. It was only destroyed to let fans know that the timeline changed. They could just have said that its a reboot before hand and accomplished the same purpose.

4. Put 17yo Chekov back in High School and let him go the Academy after that. Same with the rest, readjust their ages and backgrounds to something more like they originally were. We can have Kelso, Mitchell and others while Chekov hits the books.

5. Thirtysomething MD's have to go to the Academy for 4 years? McCoy didnt know what dunsel meant, remember? He never went to the academy. Ditch that, and put Mitchell in there.

6. More faithfull renditions of the ship and tech. No breweries for Engineering and no gleaming white Apple Stores for the bridge.

I wouldnt worry about the notion that people will be confused by the differening continuities. Superman has had comics, tv shows and movies in differing continuities and no one seems all that confused. The hard core fans wont skip a beat, and new fans can be given a 5 minute explanation from their hard core fan friends if they are really that disoriented.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I'd just as soon they didn't bring Trek back to television again for a long, long time.

That's pretty much how I feel. Let it stay the within the realm of cinema for the time being.

 

[SVD]

I say give it 3 movies (ST XI inclusive), then give it a TV show. The TV show that follows might be worked thusly with a new, non-Enterprise ship (for argument's sake, USS Newship) and crew:

First ep, USS Newship is sent on a mission by the Enterprise, with New Kirk and co visable when/giving the order.

Every few eps, USS Newship should make contact with the Enterprise.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

No doubt the franchise is on a high right now, but rushing into another sub-par series could undo much of the progress that's been made. A series with new actors as the same cast could be successful (it worked with Stargate SG1, apparently), but to do that now would just dilute the impact of the film franchise and confuse the hell out of casual fans. If Paramount can pull off a strong, successful sequel, à la The Dark Knight or X2, Star Trek will be in a much stronger place. If we're going back to what made Trek successful to begin with, let's stay there for a while.

 

[C.E. Evans]

CBS should pick out a new cast to play Kirk and the gang and just do their own 100% reboot of TOS. At this point, there's really no reason to maintain any kind of synergy between Trek's TV and movie divisions, IMO...

I think that would be too much for the Trek fan's to swallow, also it would confuse the casual viewer too much.

I really don't think the casual viewer would care and CBS probably even less...

 

[Shazam!]

At this point, the brand has been revitalized. Kirk and Spock have helped to make Star Trek the selling point again, to both the general public, who now might actually deign to check out a Star Trek series rather than holding their nose at the very idea, and very importantly, it has revitalized Star Trek's credibility among the bean counters who have veto control over the franchise. That alone is a very big step for the franchise.

I honestly don't think it has. I think Star Trek as a brand may have been revitalized to those who were already Star Trek fans, but outside of those guys, I've seen very little to suggest that people are clamoring for a new Trek show with an all-new cast. A TV show with a new cast may as well be in the Prime universe.

 

[Amasov]

Haven't read all the replies, but I'm going to guess that any new TV series that will follow would be set in the same universe as the new film, making it possible for the nu-TOS characters to make appearances here and there.

That's what I would do.

I like the idea of possibly introducing the characters in a future movie. I don't think that going back to the prime universe is the way to go, however. A lot of my friends LOVED the new movie, but the problem is that the new film has given birth to a new generation of Trek fans that have expressed little to no interest in going back and watching what came before. They want to see STAR TREK from THIS point on.

 

[KobayashiMaru13]

id love to see the breen. i mean, what do we really know about them? i dont know anything.

 

[msbae]

I'd just as soon they didn't bring Trek back to television again for a long, long time.

Heresy!

They could always do a mini-series to lead up to the next film the weeks before. Something that would lead in to the movie's plot and enhance one's understanding of events, but would not be required viewing. You could incorporate a different crew or use the Enterprise, depending on how things go.

I don't know if this would be favorable or not, but it could be interesting. TV Trek would be event television for the first time in a while, at least.

That idea is brilliant.

Any full-time show that comes into existence has to be in JJ's new dimension and with the STXI crew. Any other idea isn't likely to be marketable. While I wouldn't mind seeing a show with another Constitution class ship in that dimension but, would anyone outside of fandom?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Look, if you must - take the Kelvin bridge set, cast a younger actor as Pike, get a Spock-alike and do a series about Pike and Spock on an older ship set a few years before the movie.

Spock should be a minor supporting character, of course, an ensign at most.

 

[Kelso]

I'd prefer that every future Star Trek production exist in it's own continuity. No more mega-trek-universe, please.

 

[msbae]

Look, if you must - take the Kelvin bridge set, cast a younger actor as Pike, get a Spock-alike and do a series about Pike and Spock on an older ship set a few years before the movie.

Spock should be a minor supporting character, of course, an ensign at most.

That's watchable. I tentatively approve.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

At this point, the brand has been revitalized. Kirk and Spock have helped to make Star Trek the selling point again, to both the general public, who now might actually deign to check out a Star Trek series rather than holding their nose at the very idea, and very importantly, it has revitalized Star Trek's credibility among the bean counters who have veto control over the franchise. That alone is a very big step for the franchise.

I honestly don't think it has.

$380 million in box office = revitalized brand to Hollwyood. Remember, the numbers are all that really counts. Trek XI could have been the story of flatulent muppets crewing a garbage scow in space and with those numbers, Star Trek would have been considered revitalized and all the minions would be hard at work extending the story of the flatulent muppets into as many mediums as possible - novels, video games webisodes, calendars and commemorative plates.

Why should TV be excluded from that mix? It's just another medium to exploit. The people in charge don't see TV as special or unique. They don't see movies as special or unique, either. It's all just part of the money-making machine. There's no question that they will strive to exploit their revitalized brand in every conceivable way possible. If they fail to do so, they get the boot and someone else gets their job. The only question is whether they can contrive a way to use TV as part of this exploitation. It's not obvious that there's any good way. The only barrier to Star Trek on TV is whether CBS has the right degree of imagination + greed.

Any full-time show that comes into existence has to be in JJ's new dimension and with the STXI crew. Any other idea isn't likely to be marketable.

JJ is now the Hero of Star Trek. He has the credibility to effectively veto any idea for a TV show he doesn't like, even if he doesn't technically have the authority to do so. The reason is, let's say some CBS honcho decides to make Flatulent Muppets of Star Trek for CBS. They could do that, sure. But let's say it flops (and most shows do flop). Then CBS honcho looks like a prize idiot for taking something Mr. Abrams knew how to exploit successfully and blowing it (possibly damaging the brand for Paramount as well).

Even worse, what if Mr. Abrams told CBS in advance that their muppets idea was garbage? CBS honcho gets shown the door. You don't survive in Hollywood long enough to become a honcho by being stupid enough to stick your neck in a noose like that.

 

[msbae]

The only barrier to Star Trek on TV is whether CBS has the right degree of imagination + greed.

CBS is definitely greedy... and NCIS tends to be a rather creative show (for its genre at least) so, they might pull it off.

Any full-time show that comes into existence has to be in JJ's new dimension and with the STXI crew. Any other idea isn't likely to be marketable.

JJ is now the Hero of Star Trek. He has the credibility to effectively veto any idea for a TV show he doesn't like, even if he doesn't technically have the authority to do so. The reason is, let's say some CBS honcho decides to make Flatulent Muppets of Star Trek for CBS. They could do that, sure. But let's say it flops (and most shows do flop). Then CBS honcho looks like a prize idiot for taking something Mr. Abrams knew how to exploit successfully and blowing it (possibly damaging the brand for Paramount as well).

Even worse, what if Mr. Abrams told CBS in advance that their muppets idea was garbage? CBS honcho gets shown the door. You don't survive in Hollywood long enough to become a honcho by being stupid enough to stick your neck in a noose like that.

Something tells me CBS will want JJ involved, just because his name will bring in viewers from his other hit shows like Fringe, Lost and Alias.