Then what would happen is that the characters would so much time out of the academy that there is no point in setting the show on the Academy. No one is going to want to watch students in a school so the writers will have field trips and "disastrous" trips happen that would be longer and more common then logic allows.
So what would you like CBS to do with a new Star Trek TV show?
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Then what would happen is that the characters would so much time out of the academy that there is no point in setting the show on the Academy. No one is going to want to watch students in a school so the writers will have field trips and "disastrous" trips happen that would be longer and more common then logic allows.
Temis, msbae, what I meant--and what I said--was that we should let the films have the limelight for now, as the TOS films did in the 70s and 80s, and then when there have been a few films, we do another TV series. At the time ENT came on the air, we'd just had 13 years of non-stop Trek on television. It was too soon but TPTB still wanted it because they thought it would make money.
Bluesteel, did you go to university? If so, did you spend all your time studying? No, you had a social life as well. That's something we saw very little of in Trek. What the crew did in their off hours, apart from the holodeck, which is why I suggested a pre-TNG time period when you had no holodeck. Yes, TPTB might turn into Star Trek: The OC or ST: Dawson's Creek, but then again it could be really good and we could have the continuity links like the Kolvoord Starburst.
It all depends on how it's written.
Bluesteel, did you go to university? If so, did you spend all your time studying? No, you had a social life as well. That's something we saw very little of in Trek. What the crew did in their off hours, apart from the holodeck, which is why I suggested a pre-TNG time period when you had no holodeck. Yes, TPTB might turn into Star Trek: The OC or ST: Dawson's Creek, but then again it could be really good and we could have the continuity links like the Kolvoord Starburst.
It all depends on how it's written.
And if...
- ENT had better writing in the 2nd Season
- The show was on some other network besides UPN
There are a few ways to go with a new ST series, if they choose to go that route.
First, it ought to be on a cable channel, rather than on one of the networks. Of course, if they bring it back on one of the original networks, my best guess is it would be on CBS.
Second, as the new movie proved, since the general public mainly knows about Kirk, Spock, and company, they would need to recast the roles for a TV show. It would be odd to have two sets of actors playing the roles, but I think it can be done.
Third, the show cast and the movie cast should be separated by a few years. So the show details their adventures just after the events of the first movie, while the next movie takes place several years after both movie one and the show.
If it were just up to me, I'd have the show be a prequel to the movie, featuring the adventures of a younger Captain Pike when he first takes command of a previously unknown version of the Enterprise. For identification purposes, it ought to look a lot like the Constellation class we know, with some differences, of course. And make it a bit more like Buck Rogers in some respects.
I'd bring back Number One, as today's audiences would be fine with her, and give her a mysterious backstory that's only revealed slowly. Maybe have a younger Spock be part of the crew as well, but all the other familiar roles (engineer, doctor, etc.) would need to be totally new characters.
If they did this prequel, we could have former Captain April appear as now-Commodore or Admiral April as Pike's mentor and immediate superior. Maybe even have some flashback eps.
Red Ranger
First, it ought to be on a cable channel, rather than on one of the networks. Of course, if they bring it back on one of the original networks, my best guess is it would be on CBS.
Second, as the new movie proved, since the general public mainly knows about Kirk, Spock, and company, they would need to recast the roles for a TV show. It would be odd to have two sets of actors playing the roles, but I think it can be done.
Third, the show cast and the movie cast should be separated by a few years. So the show details their adventures just after the events of the first movie, while the next movie takes place several years after both movie one and the show.
If it were just up to me, I'd have the show be a prequel to the movie, featuring the adventures of a younger Captain Pike when he first takes command of a previously unknown version of the Enterprise. For identification purposes, it ought to look a lot like the Constellation class we know, with some differences, of course. And make it a bit more like Buck Rogers in some respects.
I'd bring back Number One, as today's audiences would be fine with her, and give her a mysterious backstory that's only revealed slowly. Maybe have a younger Spock be part of the crew as well, but all the other familiar roles (engineer, doctor, etc.) would need to be totally new characters.
If they did this prequel, we could have former Captain April appear as now-Commodore or Admiral April as Pike's mentor and immediate superior. Maybe even have some flashback eps.
Red Ranger
That sounds like a teen soap.
When Stargate started it. It only had a film. SG-1 had to create the mythology and the backstory. They even contradicted some of the stuff from the film to make the story better.
The problem for me with ENT was that i was boring. They had so much opportunity to create a badass show. Despite what a lot of people think. I personally think TOS is overated (yes I know that TOS is responsible for everything but it still sucks).
The show in the first two season was sooo boring. I gradually stopped watching it. Only came back to watch the Borg episode and the Xindi war. That war was also messed up. Instead of building up to it they just launched straight into it. Someone should have told them that if they couldn't copy TNG/VOY properly then they weren't going to succeed with DS9. Before DS9 even introduced the Dominion we knew about them. Knew where they lived and how powerful they could be.
Season 4 though had promise. Minus the finale and the Nazi episodes.
What ever is done with Star Trek, the idea must be fresh. TNG was successful because it was new. DS9 because it was different. VOY and ENT failed because they were too similar to what we'd seen before.
Lots of people make comparisons between VOY and nuBSG and say that VOY should have been more like nuBSG. VOY claimed to be "far from home, on it's own, etc." But so what? They were comfortable, had food, water, shuttlecraft. C'Mon, it was TNG just out of touch with Command. So what? Who cares? Big deal!
Star Trek: Equinox would have been a lot more fun.
Come up with something new. It'll be cool. Otherwise, leave it be.
Lots of people make comparisons between VOY and nuBSG and say that VOY should have been more like nuBSG. VOY claimed to be "far from home, on it's own, etc." But so what? They were comfortable, had food, water, shuttlecraft. C'Mon, it was TNG just out of touch with Command. So what? Who cares? Big deal!
Star Trek: Equinox would have been a lot more fun.
Come up with something new. It'll be cool. Otherwise, leave it be.
I'd say the opposite: that a new TV series stands the best chance of success to the degree it keys off Trek XI and returns to the roots of Trek (TOS).
Originality doesn't sell. Look at how BSG and Pushing Daisies struggled with ratings while formulaic, derivative pap like Fringe, Warehouse 13 and now The Vampire Diaries are big hits.
Let's just talk the Movie cast into doing a TV show. Most of them were unknown actors before the film. It shouldn't be difficult to talk them into a series. It's steady work. Actors like steady work.
A prequel following Captain Pike's adventures would be cool but, his ship shouldn't be the Enterprise. I'd prefer some other heavy cruiser of an earlier design with a name that just screams exploration. How about Pioneer?
Bringing back Number One sounds good.
A few years ago there was a comic book series called "Starfleet Academy" and it was actually pretty good. I think even Nog from DS9 showed up in a few episodes since the stories were set during DS9's run.
You could have a cadet training ship similar to what the Enterprise was doing in Trek 2 before Khan crashed the party and last we heard Obrien was back at the academy so he could possibly show up along with Admiral Jameway.
The crossovers could be endless with Titan or the Aventine possibly showing up or stop overs at DS9.
Tng was successful because of little to no competition and good writing. DS9 was successful because of good writing. Voyager and ENT suffered because of bad writting.
Freshness means nothing if the stories keep making people fall asleep. I realized ENT wasn't worth watching when I feel asleep watching an episode set in a cave where everyone got an infection and hallucinated or something. Horrible episode.
I remember that episode. It could have been a lot better.
Huh? Well, naturally I'm going to have to disagree with you all about Strange New World... Every Star Trek series does the crew affected and behaving out of character somewhere along the line. That particular episode worked for me, admittedly more in rerun than first time out.
Yes but, when ENT did it, the episode just fell flat. The Naked Now (TNG) was better, just because it was funny and had some crisis putting the ship in danger. It kept me engaged. Strange New World didn't.
The problem with that episode and Enterprise/Voyager in general is that the storyline can be very,very good but it almos always falls flat. That episode could have been good but It was so bad I feel asleep (the first I have ever fallen asleep watching Trek).
"Mirror Mirror" and "Yesterday's Enterprise" are better examples, it fun to see the charactor being different, but we have to get to know them first.
Only good thing for me in "strange New World" was when a confused T'Pol began to speak in Vulcan.
And a first season show too.
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TNG was quite good from the start. I don't care what anyone says about the first two seasons. If it could get my 5 year-old self interested and keep me watching to this day, the producers must have done something right.
