Now, *that* I wouldn't mind seeing.
So what happens to Clara now?
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Now, *that* I wouldn't mind seeing.
That WOULD make me quit the show for good.
At some point most people would just leave.
A very, very brief "goodbye" would be acceptable. After all, that's been done since Tom Baker regenerated into Peter Davison, although back then they just used clips instead of bringing the actors back.
Same thing that happened when Tegan walked into the Police Box on the highway (in Logopolis) when she had a flat tire and wanted to phone for help. What ended up happening was she got lost in the TARDIS and was still wandering around in there when the Doctor and Adric took off for Logopolis. It was quite a shock when she burst into the console room, demanding to know who was in charge.
People will either notice it and freak, notice it and ignore it, notice it and try to enter it, or they won't notice it. Hopefully Clara's rapid run-on sentences will annoy them so much that they'll run her off the planet.
Same thing happened to Dodo at the end of The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve, although it's far more nonchalantly than Tegan's introduction and was used as simply as a device to introduce a modern-day female companion at the end of the serial.
Gordon Ramsey would have a field day with that place. "Where the &^%& are all your customers?!?"
If you put Gordon Ramsey up against the Daleks, who would win - would Ramsey end up dead, or would the Daleks end up wearing aprons and learning how to prepare a meal?
Actually!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to see a skit where someone takes the egg whisk off a Dalek and beats some eggs, then puts it back without washing.
"It's &*%^ing RAW!" I think Ramsey could intimidate the Daleks and even make a few of them cry.
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My cousin once met Gordon Ramsey and set in real life he's actually one of the nicest guys she's ever met.
I've heard the same... he's one of those nice guys who really hams it up for the camera, or genuinely gets pissed off when there is good reason, like serving raw, under-cooked, or contaminated food.
He's a great chef as far as I know, so he probably gets genuinely pissed when some third rate "chef" half-asses their job.
Could someone tell me why we are suppose to dislike Clara? This is one of the more amazing shocks I had when I returned to the internet a year ago or was it shorter or longer? Can never tell.
Anyways I felt she was a fun character. She had plenty of spunk and good with the wisecracks. I do think she was better with Matt Smith and kind of played like his girlfriend but not the one you love but the one you just want to have a fun time with. We all know River was his love and He,Amy and Rory was his best friends. Capaldi was the crazy uncle to Clara.
Jason
Anyways I felt she was a fun character. She had plenty of spunk and good with the wisecracks. I do think she was better with Matt Smith and kind of played like his girlfriend but not the one you love but the one you just want to have a fun time with. We all know River was his love and He,Amy and Rory was his best friends. Capaldi was the crazy uncle to Clara.
Jason
You're free to like whomever you wish. So am I. You are free to like Clara, adore Clara, worship Clara if that's what you want.
I thought they should have just been done with her in her first episode. She broke all the rules of being a proper companion, and not in a good way - a Mary Sue character who was shoehorned into many situations where she simply did not belong. She grew selfish, presumptuous, and arrogant, and even without the actress' horrible motormouth way of delivering her lines, she became unlikable in very short order.
Of course that's my opinion. Yours obviously differs. To each their own.
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I must agree with some of this - I don't get why people dislike her. Obviously everyone has the right to like or dislike whoever they want - defensive foot-stamping notwithstanding - but I had no problem with her. I don't get how she supposedly 'broke the rules of being a companion' because that presupposes there are 'rules' of being a companion. She is the character she is - like or dislike as you please, but saying she 'broke the rules' makes no sense to me at all.
But I disagree that she was better with Matt Smith, because with Eleven she was a generic place-filler companion with no individuality - perhaps because Eleven saw her as a puzzle to be solved rather than a person with her own life.
Whereas in Capaldi's first season, Twelve's spikier personality gave her something more to work with and react against, and she became a much stronger and more interesting character because of it. I don't mind if some of her actions might be seen as unsympathetic - at least she had a character to care about, which not all companions have. And besides, I do not see a character doing something you think they shouldn't do [the generic 'you'] as being about the character but rather about you. The character is who the character is.
The one core characteristic of Clara as a character is her insistence on being the one to make her own decisions. She is in charge from the start and does not let anyone take that away from her. From the start she travelled with the Doctor when she wanted to, not when he did. And at the end she refused to let the Doctor take away her memories - her choices, her agency. Her life was about her - not about following around the man. Just because the man happened to be a superhero with a magic box didn't change that.
Frankly I think that's a very admirable thing to see in a female character, and I'm not sure that if Clara had been a man those personality traits would been written off as arrogant and selfish.
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Becasue she's continually presented as being the single most important being in the history of the Universe. The ultimate Mary Sue, better than everyone at everything and always right.
Isn't that a good description of the Doctor character? It seems to be a common trait you going to have in modern "Doctor Who" if you want your companion's to be more than just eye candy or Burt Ward level of sidekick. You got to elevate them to keep up with the Doctor and it still doesn't matter because the Doctor is so above everyone he/and now she will always be just a little more above them.
Jason
There's being a competent, strong character and then there's...
Clara was born lived and died thousands of times to save the Doctor.
Clara told the Doctor what TARDIS to pick when he ran away.
Clara creates the Doctor by telling him an inspiring bedtime story.
The Doctor spends billions of years punching a wall for Clara.
Clara convinces herself that she can be the Doctor and gets near immortality and her own TARDIS as a reward.
And on and on and on....
To be fair, The Doctor Just doesn't have the memories in his head...Time Lords back up their memories to the Tardis (like a mini APC net, aka the Matrix on Gallifrey) and erase the clutter using the Tardis telepathic circuits all the time....it's been mention a fair few times over the years. I think it started with the third, and the telepathic circuits on the Tardis go waaaaay back. Edge Of Destruction (inside the spaceship) I think.
And the Clara hate is daft modern nonsense...she's an interesting set up from Clara Oswald on. Similar to Romana, ultimately in her ending.
And the Clara hate is daft modern nonsense...she's an interesting set up from Clara Oswald on. Similar to Romana, ultimately in her ending.
To me all that stuff seems to sort be part of the nature of the show. The show seems to embrace big idea's and sort of goes for the romantic gestures of a idea over pratical concerns or even realism.
I mean the guy solves problems without murder or even a plan in many cases and human beings are treated as having something special about us that makes us unique even compared to other life in the universe. We even listen to reason!
Also the thing with Clara is she also enhances the importance of the Doctor. You have a character in the Doctor who is so important that a entire human's life seems to exist so you can exist and become the special almost God like person the universe needs you to be.
Jason
