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So, the Wii 2 is announced

I think it's actually a rather stupid idea. Nintendo never really pushed what the Wii could do. There is still plenty of life left in the Wii, if Sales are dropping than lower the price. It shouldn't be more than $130 now anyways, so maybe lower it to that, get another two years out of it.

All Nintendo is doing will lead to MS and Sony stealing the ideas and making better graphics with it. It's better for Nintendo to wait, they are winning, by a mile, and just let MS and Sony do their thing as Nintendo rakes in the money.

Plus the rumours of the controller being a Dreamcast one with a bigger built in screen is really quite stupid. :lol:
 
Plus the rumours of the controller being a Dreamcast one with a bigger built in screen is really quite stupid. :lol:
Yeah, see, that's what people said about the Wii and the DS, so maybe it would be wise to start admitting that Nintendo knows what it's doing.

Once they show me they know what they are doing then maybe I will.

My main problem with the idea of a 6 inch tablet screen in between two joy sticks is the cost. No one wants to spent $100 on an extra controller.

My second problem is wouldn't that be throwing out the whole thing that made the Wii special? However I'll wait and see with that, but the cost is really worrying.
 
Nintendo rakes in the money.

Ah but Nintendo actually made a loss last Quarter and the Wii has stalled in sales due to saturation. Nintendo has always had one giant problem with the Wii and thats software sales, despite a big lead in the console sales it has the lowest number of games sold per console far as I know.

Nintendo needs a console that publishers/developers actually want to make games for and then strike a decent relationship with them because Nintendo has a crummy reputation with 3rd party publishers.
 
Yeah, see, that's what people said about the Wii and the DS, so maybe it would be wise to start admitting that Nintendo knows what it's doing.

Once they show me they know what they are doing then maybe I will.
They already have, that's the point.


No they haven't, they have come close with decent controllers, but the Wii controller had promise and is really just a NES joke. The Wiimote has never lived up to what it should have, and it took Nintendo three years to make it a 1:1 add on for something that should have been their since day one.

If Nintendo took some chances with their games and pushed the Wii their sales numbers would go up. $130 price tag and actually making games that aren't horrible Wii cartoon characters will get sales going.

If a Wiimote and nunchuck cost $60 at release, how much is one going to be that has a 6 inch screen in the center of it?
 
Once they show me they know what they are doing then maybe I will.
They already have, that's the point.


No they haven't
The DS is the best selling game console of all time and the Wii is the best selling home console of its generation. Both have brought millions of people to gaming that were not interested before. Yes, Nintendo know what they're doing, whatever you may think about their controllers.
 
^ Having a huge Wii installed base is no good if you cannot back it up with huge software sales and outside of core Nintendo franchises, they have a poor track record. The Handheld market is Nintendo's no doubt and it will help them afford to make a bold move in the console department even if it fails badly.
 
Is this seriously a debate on whether or not Nintendo was successful with the Wii or not? Wow.

Anyway, I don't really get the point of a Wii 2 so soon, but I'm willing to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt. I think they've earned that much. Let's see what E3 brings us.
 
Is this seriously a debate on whether or not Nintendo was successful with the Wii or not? Wow.

I am not saying the Wii has not been succesful but how successful has been over stated. Its helped Nintendo become a force again in home consoles but its all starting too stall due to poor software sales, actual game releases, lack of other revenue sources like with Sony's PSN and Microsofts LIVE service and Nintendo's preference to seemingly care more about the handheld market that they own.
 
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-announces-wii-2/12486

Wake me up if it has current-gen (or better) graphics.

You'll be sleeping a very long time, then, since Nintendo has no interest in producing cutting-edge (and thus very expensive) hardware.


It's supposed to be "far superior than the PS3 / 360 graphics" or so say a few articles.

Nintendo's best games were probably made in the SNES gen, so graphics mean little if the games suck.
 
Nintendo also need to realise a few Mario games, Zelda and redoing Resident Evil on your console won't cut it. They need to start making new franchises like Sony and M/S have done.
 
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-announces-wii-2/12486

Wake me up if it has current-gen (or better) graphics.

You'll be sleeping a very long time, then, since Nintendo has no interest in producing cutting-edge (and thus very expensive) hardware.


It's supposed to be "far superior than the PS3 / 360 graphics" or so say a few articles.

Nintendo's best games were probably made in the SNES gen, so graphics mean little if the games suck.

I'll believe it when it happens.. far superior tech than current gen concoles :rolleyes:

Nintendo has built party consoles.. people get together to play some easy games with cute graphics. It's not a console for hardcore gamers and never was and Nintendo wants it that way because the market is bigger with casual gamers and those are unlikely to spend 300+ bucks on a console and then additional costs for controllers, other stuff before they even have bought a single game.

With Nintendo it's all about easy gaming fun so i believe they may upgrade the tech a bit but the main "innovations" will be controllers or any other thing that lets you play the game in a more unique way. I don't think they'll be able to reinvent the wheel once again because Kinect was faster on the market so i'm curious what they will come up with. But i'm sure it will be cute and fun untill you have the urge to spill blood again and you return to the 360/PS3 ;)
 
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-announces-wii-2/12486

Wake me up if it has current-gen (or better) graphics.

You'll be sleeping a very long time, then, since Nintendo has no interest in producing cutting-edge (and thus very expensive) hardware.

Worth pointing out that what we consider to be "current gen" tech for consoles is actually 6 years old. In computing hardware terms, that's already pretty long in the tooth and it isn't that hard to imagine a new Nintendo console with hardware at least on par that is both price competitive and profitable.
 
All Nintendo is doing will lead to MS and Sony stealing the ideas and making better graphics with it. It's better for Nintendo to wait, they are winning, by a mile, and just let MS and Sony do their thing as Nintendo rakes in the money.


I don't really agree with that. Nintendo needs a console with up-to-date tech. If they wait even more, it will be harder for them to catch up. The Wii has shown its promise, now they need to leverage it with current-gen tech, meaning HD and anything going forward. Sony and MS have already got the motion controllers, so there's no big loss. They just need something backwards compatible that can also move forward.

There are some good games on the Wii, but I also think at the same time that the reason we haven't seen all that much done with it is because of hardware limitations. So, what they'll try to do with the next console is try to both go with the casual martket and the hardcore market. They'll likely be able to do both.
 
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nintendo-announces-wii-2/12486

Wake me up if it has current-gen (or better) graphics.

You'll be sleeping a very long time, then, since Nintendo has no interest in producing cutting-edge (and thus very expensive) hardware.

Worth pointing out that what we consider to be "current gen" tech for consoles is actually 6 years old. In computing hardware terms, that's already pretty long in the tooth and it isn't that hard to imagine a new Nintendo console with hardware at least on par that is both price competitive and profitable.

This. It doesn't need to outstrip the competition, just match their hardware.

Sony and Microsoft aren't developing new consoles any time soon... it would mean hell for the game studios, and cost a shitton of money for Sony and MS.

Matching hardware with the 360 at the very least is a good idea for Nintendo, because they can get more 3rd party stuff going on - most developers these days use tools meant to develop games for modern PCs and consoles. By upgrading their hardware, Nintendo makes it easier for people other than Nintendo and Retro to make non-sucking games for their console.
 
Worth pointing out that what we consider to be "current gen" tech for consoles is actually 6 years old. In computing hardware terms, that's already pretty long in the tooth and it isn't that hard to imagine a new Nintendo console with hardware at least on par that is both price competitive and profitable.

This. It doesn't need to outstrip the competition, just match their hardware.

Sony and Microsoft aren't developing new consoles any time soon... it would mean hell for the game studios, and cost a shitton of money for Sony and MS.

Matching hardware with the 360 at the very least is a good idea for Nintendo, because they can get more 3rd party stuff going on - most developers these days use tools meant to develop games for modern PCs and consoles. By upgrading their hardware, Nintendo makes it easier for people other than Nintendo and Retro to make non-sucking games for their console.

Exactly. That's what I've been saying all along. It wouldn't be a flying leap of exaggeration if it turns out to have slightly advanced tech than the PS3 or the XBox 360. For the same price at this point in time, you could get some tech that would be more advanced than those two without trying too hard. And even then, if they do decide to have match hardware to those two, then it's even cheaper than what the PS3 and the Xbox 360 were back then. Win-win.
 
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