so the producers and writers said that discovery will lead into TOS (60's aesthetics and all)...
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Uniforms are an easy fix compared to other problems.
That all depends if they're allowed to use that stuff.
Yes CBS owns it, but paramount may have some sort of deal with CBS about using it.
Anyways its too late to change the story if it is the mirror universe. The show finished filming months ago.
Which of course is irrelevant. Making a reference to some unrelated franchise isn't anymore a valid point now than it was the first hundred times. Especially one that has always been a complete and utter mess and two properties that explicitly do not belong within the same canon, while DSC explicitly does.
I'll agree with you - in broad strokes.
They do have plenty of leeway here since TOS itself never had strong continuity and leaves a lot of room for reinterpretation.New uniforms?
Did we ever see those?
I was heart broken when Dark Matter stopped at season 2. Its one of the best sci-fi series that was out there at the time. I loved the crew, and couldn't wait to see the alternative universe crew member return.
Plus Wil Wheaton makes an excellent scumbag sociopathic villain. I loved seeing him get smacked around.
I don't believe so.
Wasn't one of Michael's shirts in episode 2 mustard yellow? Maybe that's what they saw.
It's a convention within the genre and within the industry, a convention that Star Trek is very likely to follow, because Star Trek is being run by people whose experience is industry and genre and not Star Trek in particular.
Put another way: you are thinking of this as "The way Star Trek usually works is..." They are thinking of this as "The way television scifi drama usually works is..." these are not the same things... or at least, they didn't used to be. Star Trek's obsession with linear continuity was a singular anomaly in a genre for whom reboots, adaptations, retcons and contradictions are par for the course; the only other scifi franchise with a similar track record is Stargate, which itself is almost CERTAINLY about to be rebooted anyway.
Yes, it's jarring and a departure of "the way things have always been." But the production team that used the old conventions isn't here anymore and they've been replaced TWICE OVER by people with completely different ideas on how things should be. It's time to decide whether you are a fan of Star Trek in general or a fan of a particular ERA of Star Trek lore. Some people are incapable of doing this in any franchise; there are ALOT of comic book fans that refused to read Silver Surfer after Jack Kirby left the staff, just like there are those who boycotted "The Force Awakens" purely because George Lucas wasn't involved with it. In both cases they were a vocal and irritating minority and they probably got over it eventually anyway.
We saw, what, three or four other ships in the fleet? That's hardly indicative of being "fleet wide".
People said that about ENT, and yet that's exactly what it turned out to be.
Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "straight prequel." In the sense that the plot of the Star Wars prequels leads directly into that of the original trilogy? Probably not. But is the shared universe the same? Will TOS still look like TOS—added detail that would never have been visible on 1960s TV sets and thus wasn't originally included by its production designers excepted? Yes. By the stated intent of the authors as it currently stands, yes! Of course, that intent could change, but thus far we've no direct indication it has.
Some of us may find it harder than others to imagine how they might get there from where they are...but that's explicitly where they've told us they're going, and that we should just bear with them and enjoy the ride.
That's a false choice as it relates to DSC's continuity with other series. They're not in contradiction, and anything that appears to be—again, minor details aside, as has always been par for the course—is going to be resolved, given enough time. What makes you (or anyone else) think it won't be?
We did see them at Starbase 11 in "Court Martial" and worn by various admirals that Kirk communicated with as well...but that only makes sense, if that is his base of operations and they his direct superiors, as equally the ones Lorca and Geogiou communicate with are theirs.
Also, the TNG uniforms would have seemed to us to be fleet wide as well...until we saw different ones worn in parallel aboard Deep Space Nine and Voyager. (And indeed a mix of both in Generations! And in fact, there were several different styles of admiral's uniform seen in that era more or less simultaneously.)
-MMoM
^ Exactly. If we can see multiple uniform styles coexisting in TNG, then we can see it in DSC as well.
For what it's worth, David Mack's DSC novel suggests that the uniforms we saw in TOS were only worn by the crews of Constitution-class ships (which were the only ones we ever saw in TOS anyway).
For what it's worth, David Mack's DSC novel suggests that the uniforms we saw in TOS were only worn by the crews of Constitution-class ships (which were the only ones we ever saw in TOS anyway).
That actually looks pretty awesomeMaybe Season 2 will bring something of a compromise. Ala something like this. If we got uniforms like these, I'd shut up.
There is in fact a third season.
We saw the uniforms on Starbase 11 as well -- such as the ones worn by Commodore Stone and JAG Office Lt. Ariel Shaw. They both wore uniforms similar to Kirk, et al. (except for the emblem).
Thank you.That actually looks pretty awesome
I actually find that my appreciation for Trek spin-offs has some significant correlation to the amount of change / upset to the franchise that is achieved.
What I mean is...
TMP and TWOK are my favorite Star Trek films. Just so happens both were sort of "soft reboots" of TOS in terms of style, production design, costuming, themes, continuity etc.
TNG I liked...but not a ravenous fan. It was different in a lot of ways, but also very similar to TOS in many others...so it was a mixed bag.
DS9 I love. Although it retained some sensibilities of TNG, it was the first major departure from formula Trek had ever attempted.
VOY I am very neutral on. It was very much derivative of TNG and (to a lesser degree) DS9, and didn't feel fresh or interesting.
ENT I like...but also certainly not a ravenous fan. It was different in some ways, but felt like a continuation of VOY and TNG in terms of structure, story approach, characters, etc.
Kelvin Trek I like a lot upon initial viewing, but doesn't hold my interests as much in the re-watch category. Again, not a huge departure, but enough of one to be interesting and fun.
DSC now I love like DS9 and TOS. And again, I think it's because it IS different. It's not the same old same old comfy blanket. It challenges me as a fan of the entire franchise to look at things differently.
And, since EVERYONE loves the ORV comparisons...I'd say I'm lukewarm on that show for the exact same reasons. I watch it when I remember or when I'm in the mood. But, I really don't care because it feels like I'm watching the same formula that TNG, VOY and ENT have already exhausted.
So, while it seems most fans judge Star Trek on a consistent "feel" and "continuity" etc...I am the opposite. I like my Trek iterations to be very different. It's all a matter of taste of course...but upon some self-reflection, apparently that's what appeals to me most when judging a new "iteration" of the franchise.
That’s still 10 years from now.
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