But Earth Starfleet and Federation Starfleet are different institutions, I think.Enterprise episode Hatchery had a mutiny
Correction: Many people are, but you weren't, because you believe it's a reboot and the producers are simply liars. We know this. Everyone knows what you think. You apply the same vapid arguments to every topic remotely related to visuals or continuity. You might as well just write a bot that spits out Ferengi and Adam West memes at this point.Nobody's suggesting anything "went over the studio's heads", it's obviously a deliberate retcon.
Silly hair-splitting on par with ENT's "we didn't actually say 'Ferengi' or 'Borg' so it's okay" doesn't make the slightest difference.
And you'll keep insisting that even though Star Trek's gone visually and tonally from Adam West to Ben Affleck, the continuity is actually perfect.
Spock jut wanted to be the first.Not a successful one, anyway...
Which was first, Menagerie or This Side of Paradise?Spock jut wanted to be the first.
And you keep right on drinking the Kool AidCorrection: Many people are, but you weren't, because you believe it's a reboot and the producers are simply liars. We know this. Everyone knows what you think. You apply the same vapid arguments to every topic remotely related to visuals or continuity. You might as well just write a bot that spits out Ferengi and Adam West memes at this point.
Correction: Many people are, but you weren't, because you believe it's a reboot and the producers are simply liars. We know this. Everyone knows what you think. You apply the same vapid arguments to every topic remotely related to visuals or continuity. You might as well just write a bot that spits out Ferengi and Adam West memes at this point.
There has been absolutely no evidence storywise that they were in an alternate reality prior to the final jump. The "odds" of them being in the same one? What kind of question is that? You know there are also thousands of potential years, so what are the odds of it taking place in 2256? This show isn't a random occurrence. It's a fictional story purposefully written. The odds of it existing in the setting the writers say it does is pretty damn high.The evidence would suggest that it is reboot or a parallel reality. Stamets acknowledged the existence of alternate realities in episode 9. What are the odds of them being in the same reality as TOS given all of the differences we have seen and potentially infinite alternate realities out there? But the writers state that this series takes place in the prime timeline.
Yet you’re the one ignoring factsAnd you keep right on drinking the Kool Aid![]()
If by "facts" you mean "ignore TOS, pretend everyone wasn't amazed by cloaking technology, pretend Spock meant there had been a mutiny when he said there hadn't" and the rest, then yes.Yet you’re the one ignoring facts
pretend Spock meant there had been a mutiny when he said there hadn't"
How do you tell the difference between Worf's reality where everything was the same except his birthday cake was yellow instead of chocolate? If there are infinite realities that resemble the prime universe with an equal likelihood of being the reality that Discovery takes place in then the odds that Discovery takes place in the prime reality is infintecimalThere has been absolutely no evidence storywise that they were in an alternate reality prior to the final jump. The "odds" of them being in the same one? What kind of question is that? You know there are also thousands of potential years, so what are the odds of it taking place in 2256? This show isn't a random occurrence. It's a fictional story purposefully written. The odds of it existing in the setting the writers say it does is pretty damn high.
Since you've done nothing but regurgitate the same senseless question again, my response remains the same: This show isn't a random occurrence. It's a fictional story purposefully written. The odds of it existing in the setting the writers say it does is pretty damn high.How do you tell the difference between Worf's reality where everything was the same except his birthday cake was yellow instead of chocolate? If there are infinite realities that resemble the prime universe with an equal likelihood of being the reality that Discovery takes place in then the odds that Discovery takes place in the prime reality is infintecimal
It isn't about whether the show would be "lesser" if your conspiracy theory were true. It's that you're blatantly in denial of the fact that this is an original timeline show.If by "facts" you mean "ignore TOS, pretend everyone wasn't amazed by cloaking technology, pretend Spock meant there had been a mutiny when he said there hadn't" and the rest, then yes.
I don't get the intensity of these reactions. They deliberately and inarguably changed the visuals and it's clear they're treating the story as loosely. It doesnt make the show any lesser.
But they weren't. Go watch.If by "facts" you mean "ignore TOS, pretend everyone wasn't amazed by cloaking technology
He never said that at all. Go watch. And stop citing it to "The Menagerie" because it's from "The Tholian Web" (TOS).pretend Spock meant there had been a mutiny when he said there hadn't"
With all due respect, it's because your statements are often factually incorrect and taken out of context, and your repeated use of them often seems implicitly in service of some longstanding agenda you evidently have of making minor perceived inconsistencies that are easily and plausibly explainable into indicators that there actually is no inter-show continuity worth undertaking even the most meager of efforts to preserve, when in fact the writers are taking great pains (and effective ones, for the most part) to do exactly that. You may not mean to belittle their labors, but you continue to do so.I don't get the intensity of these reactions.
But what the writers say is not what canon is officially. It would be a special pleading fallacy to say otherwise. It's what gets put up on the screen--that's what determines canon unless they change that policy someday.Since you've done nothing but regurgitate the same senseless question again, my response remains the same: This show isn't a random occurrence. It's a fictional story purposefully written. The odds of it existing in the setting the writers say it does is pretty damn high.
So what was your point with this, then?But what the writers say is not what canon is officially. It would be a special pleading fallacy to say otherwise. It's what gets put up on the screen--that's what determines canon unless they change that policy someday.
I was being facetious there. People discredited the star trek database as canon after I said it thankfully. Now there is officially zero proof that the animated series is canon.So what was your point with this, then?
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