I can just picture it - the Stargazer as a Galaxy-X-class dreadnought, but with the appropriate 4 nacelles this time!
So now we have CGI models of multiple ships…
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Where would the fourth nacelle go? Underneath the secondary hull?
Just stick it on top of the third one.
Agreed. Though, it would be nice to have one in that fleet. The Galaxy class ships would probably remain in service until around mid 26th century at least (with regular upgrades).
Also, we HAVE seen a Sovereign class ship. :-)
If you already have the model and high-res textures, then all you really need to do is export the model and re-apply the textures yes and create new lighting... its still a lot less work than having to redo everything from scratch (assuming the porting from one software to the next goes ok... though, porting meshes from one program to the next wouldn't necessarily (or, at all) result in corruptions these days (it used to be a problem before though).
To be fair, I wasn't exactly too keen on ST:Online designs.
Too many sharp edges... less overall flow.
I prefer more curvature when it comes to SF starship design I guess... so the refit Stargazer as seen in ST:Picard wasn't the prettiest looking ship for me.
Forget the four-nacelled Galaxy class - let's run with a four-nacelled Sovereign class! 
Now this was an interesting tweet: https://twitter.com/SIScreens/status/1500092735533068289
Mostly because it shows us a different looking LCARS navigation display of a couple of well known Starfleet vessels, and what looks like Klingon insignia on the right side too. Likely a mock-up, as that's a very different looking Stargazer to the one we got
I think Season 1 should be a lesson for future Trek producers of NOT what to do with Star Trek....so no, they shouldn't change it. It was a lesson for them to correct the relevant mistakes they made, and for now it looks like they've done so visually at least.
And how important visuals are.
It would be a nice gesture if they did, but I agree that they're not likely to do it.
Makes sense.
It would make the heads over at memory alpha explode: what fleet is canon then?
That has been my feeling about them. They were maybe a limited run. Hard to say how many of the few made survived the Dominion War, obviously there was at least one loss. With the experiment of families on board abandoned, they still could have had good uses as haulers, evacuation ships, etc, but perhaps they had been best as test platforms for technologies that would be utilized in other ways after the Dominion War and Borg incursions.
Or maybe they're kept in a reserve fleet now converted to something like the three nacelle variant seen in that alternate timeline, and since they are battleships and no longer science vessles, Starfleet just doesn't show them off. I like that idea better, somehow.
The Ross class is technically a refit of/subclass of the Galaxy-class program.
i, for one, like the additions. There's a lot of good stuff to mine from STO for inclusion in the "alpha canon". I'm still hoping to see an Odyssey-class ake it to the screen some day.
That's one of my bigger objections to the entirety of Disco's 2250's designs Too linear. Too much departure from the established aesthetic.
I have the same objection to some STO ships, to be honest.
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Indeed. And I'm not overly keen on some 32nd century designs. Some look great... others... not so much.
The 32nd century Intrepid class looks more angular than ever... some sharp edges are fine, but streamline it please.
I don't object to the overall 'shape' (I suppose) of ST:Online ships... but something like the Stargazer may have worked better and looked 'newer' if it was more streamlined and has curved connections as opposed to sharp edged ones... an advancement on what the Galaxy class (and TNG era) established.
Look at the USS Protostar for example... much more curvature to its connecting joints (less overall geometry spent on the actual bevelling of edges, but still smooth and streamlined overall... looks better on the eyes too).
The Stargazer reminds me a lot of the early Voyager concept (and I'm SO glad that wasn't used... because it just didn't look too appealing to my eyes - though the final Intrepid class design used for VOY probably could have used longer nacelles).
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Don't get me started about those... they look like the unholy union of the aesthetics of Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda...lol
It isn't.
Per STO Lore the Ross is a new design inspired by the Galaxy but using 2380s technology, but none of them are refits of existing Galaxy classes.
They'd probably treat it the same as TNG and TOS Remastered changes, the re-releases take precedent.
They do include the original in the behind the scenes section though.
That explains the ugliness.
Any STO backstory concerning these ships isn’t canon unless it’s mentioned on screen. Technically even the class names or ship names of the ships aren’t canon unless they’re mentioned on screen or in an official publication, or written on the ships’ hulls. Only the ship designs themselves are canon at this time.
I've thought STO ships were ugly as hell from day one. Now they're canon
I kinda liked one of them, some kind of Soverign-class refit or derivative with more armour plating and a roll bar and weapons pod between the nacelles. It was on the cover of the Star Trek Online novel The Needs of the Many.
I guess this is the modern version of DS9 using off the shelf model kits for distance ships in fleet scenes before they went all-CG.
Which they removed before release because CBS didn't like it.
When was the last time you looked at any of their ships? Because they've done a lot of beautiful ones over the last 5-6 years, after Thomas and Hector started doing designs for the game.
Almost any of the ones labelled as Tier 6
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Playable_starship#List
This is probably my current favourite design
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Da_Vinci_Miracle_Worker_Escort
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Just goes to show you, kids. Never give up on your dreams!I've thought STO ships were ugly as hell from day one. Now they're canon
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