who the hell was Future Guy?
So now that Enterprise has been over for years now...
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I think we just had a thread on this...
Re: So now that Enterprise has been over for years now ...
Assuming he went to the Wile E. Coyote School of Cunning Plans (which aren't very well thought out)...
Nero
...the time-travelling villain from the next film.
Assuming he went to the Wile E. Coyote School of Cunning Plans (which aren't very well thought out)...
Nero
...the time-travelling villain from the next film.
Re: So now that Enterprise has been over for years now ...
Basically, Berman had no idea. He's said as much.
So at this stage, it doesn't matter. He was just some guy with a highly amorphous albeit antagonistic agenda. Who he is and what he wanted is about as relevant as who the random extras on the ship are.
Basically, Berman had no idea. He's said as much.
So at this stage, it doesn't matter. He was just some guy with a highly amorphous albeit antagonistic agenda. Who he is and what he wanted is about as relevant as who the random extras on the ship are.
Rick Berman and Brannon Braga will tell you, just as soon as they figure it out for themselves.
Fran Drescher.
ah okay, see I gave Berman and Braga the benefit of the doubt by assuming they had a clue who he was, but I guess I was mistaken.
They had no plan for Future Guy so when it came time to finally reveal him, they would have to pull it out of their ass.
So this means that half the plot points made in the past about him would have made no sense. All the millions of posts on this BBS about all the discrepancies would cause a miniature black hole to form in the server.
The black hole would consume all of the Earth in a split second, thereby ending Star Trek (and sadly the human race) as we all knew it.
So this means that half the plot points made in the past about him would have made no sense. All the millions of posts on this BBS about all the discrepancies would cause a miniature black hole to form in the server.
The black hole would consume all of the Earth in a split second, thereby ending Star Trek (and sadly the human race) as we all knew it.
Clearly it was short-sighted of B&B not to have sketched out the FutureGuy plot points at least somewhat in advance.
That said, they take a bit too much heat, IMO, for not having every detail of the TCW plotline written before the show aired. Plenty of very successful writers (Stephen King, for example) are well into the writing process before they know how things are going to end.
King has said that when he began publishing "The Green Mile" on a chapter-by-chapter basis, he had no idea how it was going to end. Same with the "Dark Tower" novels - even after publishing six volumes, he didn't know how it was going to end until he was basically near the very finish, after 30 years of writing it.
The theory is that too much advance plotting drains a lot of the organic flow from the story that otherwise would derive from the characters as they develop.
So I really don't condemn them for starting the TCW and creating FutureGuy without knowing where it was going - it's a valid writing technique. Unfortunately, because the show suddenly shifted gears, they were forced to pull a sudden finish out of their asses, and it didn't work particularly well (and they certainly deserve criticism for that).
That said, they take a bit too much heat, IMO, for not having every detail of the TCW plotline written before the show aired. Plenty of very successful writers (Stephen King, for example) are well into the writing process before they know how things are going to end.
King has said that when he began publishing "The Green Mile" on a chapter-by-chapter basis, he had no idea how it was going to end. Same with the "Dark Tower" novels - even after publishing six volumes, he didn't know how it was going to end until he was basically near the very finish, after 30 years of writing it.
The theory is that too much advance plotting drains a lot of the organic flow from the story that otherwise would derive from the characters as they develop.
So I really don't condemn them for starting the TCW and creating FutureGuy without knowing where it was going - it's a valid writing technique. Unfortunately, because the show suddenly shifted gears, they were forced to pull a sudden finish out of their asses, and it didn't work particularly well (and they certainly deserve criticism for that).
In a few interviews B&B said they had a general idea of where the story was going and who FG was but wanted to leave some flexibility in the directions they could take.
Brannon said in the summer of 2002 that they could have revealed FG in Shockwave but didn't see the advantage of doing it then.
As far as the arc making sense--does it really have to? The writers easily could have argued that any single action ordered by FG via the Suliban such as inciting Klingon strife in Broken Bow or saving NX in Cold Front was being done for one reason but because of constant incursions by other factions which undermined their carefully laid out plan of changes to history, FG would have to change plans to compensate.
In other words one incursion he wanted might have no connection to a second incursion he desires. For instance, he might have wanted NX's mission ended to prevent the Federation or at the very least delay its formation but when the Sphere Builders began meddling FG realized he now needed Earth to stick around and form the Federation on schedule in order to stop the SBs in the 26th century otherwise without the Federation the SBs would destroy all life in our galaxy including FG's species leading to him being erased from history.
Brannon said in the summer of 2002 that they could have revealed FG in Shockwave but didn't see the advantage of doing it then.
As far as the arc making sense--does it really have to? The writers easily could have argued that any single action ordered by FG via the Suliban such as inciting Klingon strife in Broken Bow or saving NX in Cold Front was being done for one reason but because of constant incursions by other factions which undermined their carefully laid out plan of changes to history, FG would have to change plans to compensate.
In other words one incursion he wanted might have no connection to a second incursion he desires. For instance, he might have wanted NX's mission ended to prevent the Federation or at the very least delay its formation but when the Sphere Builders began meddling FG realized he now needed Earth to stick around and form the Federation on schedule in order to stop the SBs in the 26th century otherwise without the Federation the SBs would destroy all life in our galaxy including FG's species leading to him being erased from history.
The Future Guy was a sinister villian known as McGuffin or Plot Device in the early 21st century, who travelled through time to the future but couldn't travel back to the 22nd century. This forced him to use a crummy device that sent his image in shadows.
Doc Emmett Brown, who else? 
-- RR
-- RRI still say it's time-travellin' boy Wesley Crusher gone over to the Dark Side. (I'm mixing franchises here, but you get the idea.) 
James Horan.
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