Spoilers So now Discovery is 'synched-up' with canon
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What some people will do to win an internet argument...
Agreed. This has just gotten silly.
I'm just waiting to see it pop up in the forum as its own thread.
"From - canonical issues!!!!!!!"
We should tackle much more important issues instead, like where the Picard hometown of La Barre exactly is.I'm just waiting to see it pop up in the forum as its own thread.
"From - canonical issues!!!!!!!"
*weary sigh*
The TNG forum awaits!
La Barre is a commune in the department of Haute-Saône, in the eastern French region of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté. Located in the valley of the Ognon river and neighboring the department of Doubs, La Barre is bordered by the municipalities of Beaumotte-Aubertans, Blarians, Germondans, Rigney and Vandelans. It is 26 km away from Besançon and 29 km from Vesoul.
Next?
I need you for my GPS.
thanks - i really needed that. the english wiki has 5 of them
want me to check the french?... did it anyway: 11. what makes you so sure you got the right one?
That, of course, assumes the Trek version is the same as IRL.
one of themThat, of course, assumes the Trek version is the same as IRL.
... btw, the new berlin i'm from is the one on the moon, not the one in texas, or illinois or whereever there's another
And the Kelvin Timeline Starfleet technology by far was more down to earth. Yes, it looked more modern and flashy and there is some new tech like the glass displays on the bridge or the prison cell barrier. But nothing that fancy as unfolding equipment and EV suits. I can't even remember one instance of using a force field in the new movies. While new the prison cell barrier is still physical as is most of the Kelvin Timeline technology. No inter-ship beaming, instead work bees, forklifts and cranes that haul equipment and shuttles.
Abrams & Co had great freedom in the creation of that new timeline and absolutly used other aestehtics. And while they added some new technology I think functionally the technology in the movies is much closer to the TOS rough-and-ready feel than DSC achieved. When I watch the movies I think that they show starfleet technology that is added to that what TOS showed us and could have been there. But when I watch DSC the technology in that series feels like it replaces that what we saw in TOS.
Abrams & Co had great freedom in the creation of that new timeline and absolutly used other aestehtics. And while they added some new technology I think functionally the technology in the movies is much closer to the TOS rough-and-ready feel than DSC achieved. When I watch the movies I think that they show starfleet technology that is added to that what TOS showed us and could have been there. But when I watch DSC the technology in that series feels like it replaces that what we saw in TOS.
Now that Disco has been "synced up" with Holy Trek Canon, I've been given the gift I didn't ask for. Once I realized what I had, I thought, "Great! You just did me a favor without my realizing it." How do I figure? They just improved my DSC Forum TrekBBS-going experience. All the debates I used to get involved into on here have been rendered moot.
"Why don't they mention the Spore Drive?" It's been classified and they agree never to speak about it.
"Why didn't the Klingons have hair in the first season?" They shaved their heads.
"Why don't the D7s look like D7s?" Because the Klingons were divided. Once they united, they decided what it really was.
"Why wasn't Kirk in the Klingon War?" If Pike wasn't, then what works for Pike works for Kirk.
"Where are the TOS Uniforms?" The Enterprise crew are wearing them. They're the "new" uniforms and haven't been fully phased in.
"Why don't we usually see holocommunicators later on?" There are some technical issues and not everyone likes them.
"Why doesn't Spock mention Michael?" To quote Worf, "We do NOT discuss it with Outsiders."
There we go. I'm not too thrilled with all of these answers, I want to stress that (especially when I didn't ask for them), but they're answers nonetheless. Or at least addressed as non-answers. Either way, they're addressed. And it really comes down to whether or not someone likes those answers. Which is different from not having them at all.
So I've completely moved on from all of those topics because I don't feel a need to defend them anymore whenever they're brought up in Prequel Canon Debates which I won't miss at all. Bye-bye. See you later, Evil PCDs.
Onward to Season 3 where NONE of that matters anymore!
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Yeah, that's all Greek to me.
Yeah, I understand. As I mentioned in several other posts, before the finale even aired, I had worked out most of those 'issues' in my head canon already and moved on.
Plus, as far as Starfleet command knows, they are 0/2 regarding the spore drive. Both ships outfitted were lost with all hands including the two lead scientists (the Glenn due to a horrible jump accident, the Discovery allegedly due to a fatal spore drive malfunction at a critical moment).
Coupled with all the ethical concerns (genetically altering humans which is a big, illegal taboo, plus the long term effects on Stamets aren't even known yet), the practical problems (we don't know how rare tardigrades of the Ripper variety are, if they even usually hang around in Federation space, and if they'll ever be able to find one again), plus all the risks with it that came up during Discovery's run (accidentally jumping into suns if you try long distance without a navigator, semi-accidentally jumping to alternate universes, thanks, Lorca, losing months by jumping "too far", or the danger to poison the network and endanger life as we know it through careless use, thanks, mirrorStamets) Starfleet has noreason not to mothball the whole idea.
mothball? burn it!
Apparently even Klingons can see sense in leaving something deemed too dangerous well alone. They apparently came to that conclusion regarding the usage of time crystals for war purposes.
And besides, even if they wanted to develop their own spore drive, they would probably have to start from scratch, since I don't think that even if they had Klingon mycologists running around, they'd have to be advanced enough for astro-mycology and able to combine that with the engineering side of things. And again, find a tardigrade.
So this is the progression of the USS Enterprise uniform then? . You happy with that explanation?
The new uniform isn't bad at all, bar the extremely dumb shoulder pads. Would have preferred the ST2009 designs (not a fan of the films but the overall aesthetic was great) but the Discovery ones are a close enough re-imagining of the classic uniform.
You don't literally want them to wear exact replicas of those jumpers with the stitched-on insignia, right?
You don't literally want them to wear exact replicas of those jumpers with the stitched-on insignia, right?
In Disco's depiction of events, they never had the version of the uniforms from TOS. They have what I usually call Disco-TOS or "TOS" Uniforms (quotations deliberate). If you're wondering, I actually personally prefer the versions of the uniforms from the 1960s (and the version from the Kelvin Films while we're at it).
"If Memory Serves" having a recap with footage from "The Cage" basically shows to me what the creators of DSC said: they intended to show the basic events that happened are the same even if the visual depiction is different.
I'll cut-and-paste what I said in the previous post: "I'm not too thrilled with all of these answers, I want to stress that (especially when I didn't ask for them), but they're answers nonetheless. Or at least addressed as non-answers. Either way, they're addressed. And it really comes down to whether or not someone likes those answers. Which is different from not having them at all."
It's water under the bridge at this point. DSC won't take place in the 23rd Century anymore.
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