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So is Capt Shaw the new, reigning biggest a##hole in Trek?

Trans persons aren't the only people have dead names.


And people also disliked Kirk going from Cadet to captain. Seven isn't being singled out.

Kirk did not have eighteen years of military experience behind him.

She was named XO for a reason.
 
I really think it's a bad idea to equate trans issues with assimilation, which is consistently portrayed as an assault that leaves deep trauma in its victims. This isn't dead naming, it's something else, and while it would be worth exploring from a character standpoint, it's disingenuous to refer to it as deadnaming.
"Seven of Nine" is clearly the name she identifies as. "Annika Hansen" might be her birthname, but it's a name she hasn't willingly used since she was a child. To refer to her by the birthname she has since dropped is the literal definition of deadnaming.
 
And Cadet Kirk had it?
Why do you keep bringing up Kirk? He has nothing to do with this, that was a dumb action movie, people disliked him going from cadet to captain.

We shouldn't treat the TV shows the same as the Kelvin movies. Keeping Seven as XO will allow her to gain command experience under an experienced captain. She can get promoted during the hypothetical TV series.

It's more realistic this way.
 
Why do you keep bringing up Kirk? He has nothing to do with this, that was a dumb action movie, people disliked him going from cadet to captain.

Because like it or not, it's canon.


We shouldn't treat the TV shows the same as the Kelvin movies. Keeping Seven as XO will allow her to gain command experience under an experienced captain.

A "experienced Captain" who's terrified of exploration, who's afraid to step beyond Federation space.

She can get promoted during the hypothetical TV series.

It's more realistic this way.

If one's "reality" includes replicators, transporters, and warp drives. :shifty:


Nothing ever fully prepares you for the moment.
 
A "experienced Captain" who's terrified of exploration, who's afraid to step beyond Federation space.
Only because it wasn't his mission at the time. The ship wasn't stocked for it.

If he was terrified of exploration he wouldn't be commanding an exploration ship.

Because like it or not, it's canon.
And? That doesn't make it good story telling.

If one's "reality" includes replicators, transporters, and warp drives.
That isn't a counter my point in anyway.
 
Only because it wasn't his mission at the time. The ship wasn't stocked for it.

If he was terrified of exploration he wouldn't be commanding an exploration ship.

What ship in Starfleet is ready to take on a ship armed with a portal weapon?
Was Voyager ready to spend seven years in the Delta Quadrant?

You can do everything by the book -- and space will throw you for a loop (Voyager and Enterprise can testify to that).
 
Only because it wasn't his mission at the time. The ship wasn't stocked for it.

Resources have never been a problem for Starfleet.

And? That doesn't make it good story telling.

The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it any less canon.

Picard got his command after his commanding officer was killed. If he can handle being thrown into the deep end of the pool, so can Seven.

It would be terribly disappointing for Seven to end Picard's final season back where she started.
 
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Picard got his command after his commanding officer was killed. If he can handle being thrown into the deep end of the pool, so can Seven.
We really have no canonical context regarding the circumstances of how Picard got command of the Stargazer, besides taking command after the captain was killed. Presumably Picard was already the ship's XO at the time. In the aftermath, Starfleet likely felt he'd spent enough time in grade as XO and had learned enough about command, combined with the presumably satisfactory way he resolved whatever situation the Stargazer was in when the captain was killed that they believed he was ready to take permanent command of the ship and thus promoted him.

Seven meanwhile might have all the necessary skills and qualifications to be a command officer, as reflected by the fact she's currently a ship's XO, but she still needs to "earn her spurs" before Starfleet gives her a command of her own.
 
We really have no canonical context regarding the circumstances of how Picard got command of the Stargazer, besides taking command after the captain was killed. Presumably Picard was already the ship's XO at the time. In the aftermath, Starfleet likely felt he'd spent enough time in grade as XO and had learned enough about command, combined with the presumably satisfactory way he resolved whatever situation the Stargazer was in when the captain was killed that they believed he was ready to take permanent command of the ship and thus promoted him.

Seven meanwhile might have all the necessary skills and qualifications to be a command officer, as reflected by the fact she's currently a ship's XO, but she still needs to "earn her spurs" before Starfleet gives her a command of her own.

Which brings me back to cadet Kirk.

It was good enough for two more movies.
 
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