I've heard the last several books in the Time to... series are quite good....did you ever get around to reading those?
So I just finished A Time to be Born
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I've heard the last several books in the Time to... series are quite good....did you ever get around to reading those?
If not, you really should. Kill/Heal and War/Peace are awesome. So are Love/Hate.
i tried skipping ahead to Love/Hate, couldn't get into those either. Dont when i'll try the series again, i'm thick deep in star wars right now, reading and enjoying the New Jedi Order series.
seriously, read kill/heal, war/peace - 3 fantastic books! When I got them I went:
Love, Hate, Kill, Heal, War Peace, Born, Die, Sow, Harvest
I found that reading them in that order made me more curious to find out what had happened previously in the series, and so if the books were occasionally lacking - but overall I enjoyed all 9! - then i could be a bit more forgiving!
Love, Hate, Kill, Heal, War Peace, Born, Die, Sow, Harvest
I found that reading them in that order made me more curious to find out what had happened previously in the series, and so if the books were occasionally lacking - but overall I enjoyed all 9! - then i could be a bit more forgiving!
Alright, so here's one for you:
I'm reading a two book series right now. The Enterprise is sent to an area on what appears to be a pretty uninteresting mission. They arrive and find it's difficult to navigate because of how dense the clutter is they have to get through. To make matters worse, there are apparently natural phenomena that make things more dangerous and interfere with ships functions. They also find a new mysterious enemy that seems to have connections with the people from that area with unknown motives and origins. Members of the crew have to take small craft to navigate through parts of it and end up being stranded on some of the floating clutter. The enterprise, to save the day has to figure out who the enemy is and how to overcome it.
Which two book series am I talking about?
I'm reading a two book series right now. The Enterprise is sent to an area on what appears to be a pretty uninteresting mission. They arrive and find it's difficult to navigate because of how dense the clutter is they have to get through. To make matters worse, there are apparently natural phenomena that make things more dangerous and interfere with ships functions. They also find a new mysterious enemy that seems to have connections with the people from that area with unknown motives and origins. Members of the crew have to take small craft to navigate through parts of it and end up being stranded on some of the floating clutter. The enterprise, to save the day has to figure out who the enemy is and how to overcome it.
Which two book series am I talking about?
As I make my way through Sow/Harvest, I'm struck by how similar the two story lines are.
Born/Die is one valid answer. Sow/Harvest also fits. You can take the story outline I posted above and it describes both story lines...weird, huh?
As much as I'm enjoying getting back into reading Trek books, I think they made a mistake putting these two duologies back to back as many of the overarching themes are the same even though the details vary. It's a little disappointing but I'm anxious to get the next 2-3 sets of books in the series.Hmmm...now you've said that I've realised you're right, but that wasn't where I found the recycled concepts in the series:
It was the end of Hate where we learn the drug had been deliberately manufactured in order to create a race of beserker soldiers (which seemed stupid to me, violent person =/= soldier) which was a Dominion War secret weapon...then we had kill/heal about the cannons...
it made me wonder if more was going to be made in Love/Hate about the fact this was a secret weapon, but the decision was made to change it when the concept for Kill/Heal became clear...
incidentally was there any word ever on what the other duology would have focussed on, back when this was intended to be a 12-book miniseries?
It was the end of Hate where we learn the drug had been deliberately manufactured in order to create a race of beserker soldiers (which seemed stupid to me, violent person =/= soldier) which was a Dominion War secret weapon...then we had kill/heal about the cannons...
it made me wonder if more was going to be made in Love/Hate about the fact this was a secret weapon, but the decision was made to change it when the concept for Kill/Heal became clear...
incidentally was there any word ever on what the other duology would have focussed on, back when this was intended to be a 12-book miniseries?
It never got that far, IIRC. There was an initial, tentative idea to do it as 12 books, but by the time the specific plot outlines were developed, I think the number had already been reduced.
Ah right, shame! I wonder whether they would have been in the camp of:
Exploration: Sow/Harvest
or
Internal Federation Politics: Born/Die, Love/Hate, Kill/Heal, War/Peace
The series was kind of tilted in one direction, it might have been interesting to see the Enterprise "in the dog-house" as it were for longer!
Exploration: Sow/Harvest
or
Internal Federation Politics: Born/Die, Love/Hate, Kill/Heal, War/Peace
The series was kind of tilted in one direction, it might have been interesting to see the Enterprise "in the dog-house" as it were for longer!
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As I make my way through Sow/Harvest, I'm struck by how similar the two story lines are.
Born/Die is one valid answer. Sow/Harvest also fits. You can take the story outline I posted above and it describes both story lines...weird, huh?
Not to be even more discouraging or anything, but Love/Hate were actually my least favorite pair.
FOR THE RECORD THOUGH, literally every book in the post-Nemesis continuity starting with A Time To Kill is better than all 6 of the first A Time To... books (at least for my money). The editor that commissioned A Time To... left halfway through, and doesn't have anything to do with the rest, and you'd be surprised what a difference that makes.
So even if you hate them, keep going; there's amazing stuff ahead.
I haven't hated any of the books I've read lately, thought Time To Die was pretty mediocre. That being said, between what you and others have said I'm pretty psyched about getting though these early books into the good stuff!
I haven't hated any of the books I've read lately, thought Time To Die was pretty mediocre. That being said, between what you and others have said I'm pretty psyched about getting though these early books into the good stuff!
You'll see the difference as soon as you hit A Time To Kill. It's a promise. David Mack kicks that shit into high gear in like 20 pages flat.
I haven't hated any of the books I've read lately, thought Time To Die was pretty mediocre. That being said, between what you and others have said I'm pretty psyched about getting though these early books into the good stuff!
You'll see the difference as soon as you hit A Time To Kill. It's a promise. David Mack kicks that shit into high gear in like 20 pages flat.
Awesome!
I am so looking forward to getting to those books. I should be done with "Harvest" by Friday and onto "Time to Love" by Sat. and "Hate" by Monday.
So, I finished Time to Harvest today.........again a bit of a slow beginning as it spends several chapters recapping the situation. I think it was like 5 chapters in before we got to any new real action with Geordi on the asteroid.
However, once it picked up the action, it slowly accelerated so that by the time I got to the last half of the book, the pace was moving along very nicely. Overall, I'd say it was a stronger duology than Born/Die and I quite enjoyed the events that unfolded in Harvest. Seemed like a nice return to form for Picard and the Enterprise and I liked the reintroduction of the Sataarans as villains. I especially liked that they weren't mustache twilring black hats, but professionals who were set out to save their people.
I'd give Harvest an 8.6/10 and the two book set together an 8.1/10.
Very much looking forward to starting in on Love/Hate tonight........
However, once it picked up the action, it slowly accelerated so that by the time I got to the last half of the book, the pace was moving along very nicely. Overall, I'd say it was a stronger duology than Born/Die and I quite enjoyed the events that unfolded in Harvest. Seemed like a nice return to form for Picard and the Enterprise and I liked the reintroduction of the Sataarans as villains. I especially liked that they weren't mustache twilring black hats, but professionals who were set out to save their people.
I'd give Harvest an 8.6/10 and the two book set together an 8.1/10.
Very much looking forward to starting in on Love/Hate tonight........
I think Love/Hate is my second favorite of the sets of duologies (with Kill/Heal being the first. War/Peace is my favorite book of the A Time to... series, period).
The plot in those two moves fast (at least I thought so) and was compelling enough to make me keep reading.
The plot in those two moves fast (at least I thought so) and was compelling enough to make me keep reading.
Memory Beta claims there was a definite plan for theoretical books 11+12 and cites the BBS as one of the sources:
No, it really was supposed to be 12 books, with Daffyd ab Hugh writing the missing duology. (My understanding is that it was supposed to be something Lovecraftian; that would have been cool, actually, with Picard battling the Elder Gods.) And Keith's duology compressed down to a single book -- and then spawned articles. Twelve books. Sorry, Christopher, but you are the Weakest Link.
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