So does SF get to explore the Gamma Q?
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If the Founders had no further plans to conquer the AQ, I think they would try to destroy the wormhole as a (preemptive) defensive measure.
If they did have future plans to infiltrate the AQ, I think they would "reluctantly" allow travel into Dominion territory.
That opossum isn't dead. He's not even a opossum!
If they did have future plans to infiltrate the AQ, I think they would "reluctantly" allow travel into Dominion territory.
That opossum isn't dead. He's not even a opossum!
Yes, in the novels
Realistically speaking, the Starfleet+Romulan+Klingon Alliance won the war against the Dominion, yes, but really only against their AQ outpost. Even the Alliance might be brought to naught relatively quickly when facing the full might of the Dominion (assuming the wormhole aliens pull no further tricks from their sleeves).
So it might be wise for the Alliance to not push their luck during the negotiations, and agree to not explore the GQ, or at least not Dominion space.
Unless of course they had them over a barrel using the Founder's disease, but even then there would be no guarantee of the Dominion getting back on their word after they had been cured. Then again, they could of course do so anyway.
Or unless Odo was succesful in convincing the Founders the solids could be trusted- at least the Federation ones.
So it might be wise for the Alliance to not push their luck during the negotiations, and agree to not explore the GQ, or at least not Dominion space.
Unless of course they had them over a barrel using the Founder's disease, but even then there would be no guarantee of the Dominion getting back on their word after they had been cured. Then again, they could of course do so anyway.
Or unless Odo was succesful in convincing the Founders the solids could be trusted- at least the Federation ones.
I don't think they'd need to do so.
Right now, the entire Alliance was needed to defeat just an isolated outpost of the Dominion. And had the wormhole aliens not stretched out a helping hand by making those 2700 ships disappear (and making the outpost 'isolated' for the rest of the war), they would have lost this war without any prayer of hope. This outpost might have been a relatively minor affair in the grand scheme of Dominion politics and troop deployments- we don't know. So right now, the Dominion is probably very comfortably ahead and there's no way the Alliance could pose any threat to the Dominion. (Well, apart from any nefarious schemes such as that morphogenetic virus.)
However, given the speed with which the Federation develops, and some indications that the Dominion seems to be in a technological stasis, or at least to progress very, very slowly, the Federation (or the Alliance) might be able to stand up to the Dominion itself in a century or so. Incidentally, that's also the timeframe Q gives for the first presence of humans in the DQ, so by that time, the wormhole being destroyed or not probably becomes gradually less of a factor.
So all in all, whether they destroy the wormhole or not, they are probably still 'safe' for a century after DS9, but no more than that. Given that the Dominion plays 'the long game' they would take all this into consideration.
There's always the fact that the Dominion was powerless to stop Starfleet from "exploring" in the years between "Jem'Hadar" and "Call to Arms". They finally established a presence at the Gamma End around the time of "In Purgatory's Shadow", but since it clearly took them some doing, would they bother to keep that up?
...Well, it's the cheaper alternative to mounting a Dominion-wide vigil against devious UFP infiltrators who sprout freedom propaganda and spray deadly bioweapons left and right. So yes, it's the one thing I could see them insisting on, without any complicating factors. If there's a treaty mention of the issue, it will simply read "Anything coming out of the wormhole will be burned, shredded and ground and then interrogated and then burned again", but this might simply be implicit in the arrangements, too.
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...Well, it's the cheaper alternative to mounting a Dominion-wide vigil against devious UFP infiltrators who sprout freedom propaganda and spray deadly bioweapons left and right. So yes, it's the one thing I could see them insisting on, without any complicating factors. If there's a treaty mention of the issue, it will simply read "Anything coming out of the wormhole will be burned, shredded and ground and then interrogated and then burned again", but this might simply be implicit in the arrangements, too.
Timo Saloniemi
I can't help thinking the situation may be far worse for the Alpha quadrant powers than you say. I was very disappointed that "The search" led so very, very quickly and easily to the discovery that the Changeling were the Founders of the Dominion. Thus I tend to be suspicious and think that our heroes were permitted to find out what they did, and I think that the Changelings were really the Founders of only one province of the Dominion, and that there might be other provinces of the Dominion with other rulers, and the Changlings might have bosses who have bosses and so on up to the real Founders of the Dominion.
How could they? It's in their playbook.
The treaty probably included a provision not to allow GQ travel without a negotiated agreement. I imagine Ferengi ships and other trading partners were given such licenses but Federation ships generally were not.
I don’t think the Dominion would re-invade in revenge, only if their original reason still applied, preemptive self protection.
After what they did in Die Is Cast they can’t collapse the entrance, and prophets stop them from destroying the wormhole (Unless they got smart with chroniton beams, but the Prophets probably planted seeds 200 years ago to guarantee that never happened.)
But they probably set up a military post at the wormhole’s entrance to enforce the terms of the treaty.
I don’t think the Dominion would re-invade in revenge, only if their original reason still applied, preemptive self protection.
After what they did in Die Is Cast they can’t collapse the entrance, and prophets stop them from destroying the wormhole (Unless they got smart with chroniton beams, but the Prophets probably planted seeds 200 years ago to guarantee that never happened.)
But they probably set up a military post at the wormhole’s entrance to enforce the terms of the treaty.
Perhaps that's why the Prophets took Sisko with them: to make him work the wormhole's customs desk.
The Dominion knows the Prophets are biased and will do nasty things to Dominion assets but not to Alpha ones, so there's that to keep them from dedicating too much in the way of resources to the wormhole. If a minefield was good enough for Alpha, one would be good enough for Gamma, too, especially as Alpha would have no foothold in Gamma to, ahem, undermine it.
Letting anybody or anything through would require the Dominion to commit much greater resources, though, to make sure this loose agent didn't do anything underhanded in Gamma. But it might be fun for them to maintain an Armistice Station where Alphans would occasionally conduct empty talks and be subjected to Dominion analysis, impregnated with devious nanoweapons, bribed, blackmailed, replaced by Founder impersonators, etc...
Timo Saloniuemi
Letting anybody or anything through would require the Dominion to commit much greater resources, though, to make sure this loose agent didn't do anything underhanded in Gamma. But it might be fun for them to maintain an Armistice Station where Alphans would occasionally conduct empty talks and be subjected to Dominion analysis, impregnated with devious nanoweapons, bribed, blackmailed, replaced by Founder impersonators, etc...
Timo Saloniuemi
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