Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)

[Richard Baker]

2) It's not the number of shuttles per se, but the relative SIZE of the shuttles compared to the shuttle bay door and structure that the critical calculations were taken from.

Critical calculations?? It's a movie and Star Trek is not real. You can go to sleep now.

All calculations have been criticized in this thread...

 

[SonicRanger]

Just saw (for the 40th time) the Omega Glory tonight. I didn't remember this but at one point early in the episode Galloway tells Kirk that "all" four shuttles are still in the hanger deck. I think that is another nail in the coffin that the nuEnterprise is much larger based at least on the 10-20 shuttles in the hanger deck on the nuEnterprise as opposed to get ole TOS Enterprise.

Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.

1) The number of shuttles in TOS does not dictate the JJ-verse number of shuttles.

2) It's not the number of shuttles per se, but the relative SIZE of the shuttles compared to the shuttle bay door and structure that the critical calculations were taken from.

The problems with your refusal are:

(1) The nuEnterprise shuttles are much larger than the Enterprise Prime shuttles.

(2) The shuttlebay, as seen in the new film with those larger shuttles, wouldn't fit inside the Enterprise Prime.

(3) Unless you are watching TOS Remastered, even the shuttlebay shown in TOS (and especially TAS) doesn't fit inside the Enterprise Prime.

(4) Even the TOS shuttle interiors are too large for the exteriors.

You can't put more, bigger shuttles in a shuttlebay the size of the one that fits inside the Enterprise Prime.

That's not even dragging the size of the shuttlebay in TFF into this: only two shuttles fit in there side by side.

 

[Praetor]

^And I'll add:

5) Just because the Exeter had "four craft" doesn't mean that the Enterprise had "four craft." For all we know, the Exeter had only four gigantic long-range warp surveyors, and the Enterprise had lots of little class F shuttles.

"Trek" has long said stuff should fit where it "really' won't.

 

[SonicRanger]

^And I'll add:

5) Just because the Exeter had "four craft" doesn't mean that the Enterprise had "four craft." For all we know, the Exeter had only four gigantic long-range warp surveyors, and the Enterprise had lots of little class F shuttles...

The nuEnterprise's shuttlebay is much bigger than this:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x16hd/thegalileosevenhd016.jpg
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x16hd/thegalileosevenhd022.jpg

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch5/thefinalfrontier0274.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tff/ch8/thefinalfrontier0638.jpg

 

[Chrisisall]

I personally like the idea of a larger Enterprise.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f110/chrisisall/enterprise_wall05_1280.jpg

 

[SonicRanger]

I personally like the idea of a larger Enterprise.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f110/chrisisall/enterprise_wall05_1280.jpg

That shot clearly establishes that the JJprise is larger than a moon! Those bastards! Rot in hell!

 

[Chrisisall]

That shot clearly establishes that the JJprise is larger than a moon! Those bastards! Rot in hell!

Being brand new here (the places I usually frequent seem to have no stomach for technical discussion regarding nacelle proximity, hangar bay size, or nacelle strut curvature) I don't want to offend, but are you just being funny? Because I can deal with funny, but not lack-O-perspective.

 

[M'Sharak]

I'm pretty sure he was being funny.

 

[Chrisisall]

I'm pretty sure he was being funny.

So was I- I think I found a cool place!

 

[Anticitizen]

the places I usually frequent seem to have no stomach for technical discussion regarding nacelle proximity, hangar bay size, or nacelle strut curvature

God, what sort of fucked-up hellholes do you usually visit?

 

[Chrisisall]

Oh nice enough places, really, but not so technical-minded, not that I demand it all the time, but it would be frakkin nice if I could use the term "Jeffreries Tube" without having half the peeps ask me what I'm talkin' about.

 

[dougkeenan]

Is that like a Jefferies Tube?

 

[dougkeenan]

dbl post

 

[Chrisisall]

Is that like a Jefferies Tube?

Sorry, I'm not at my own computer, and I've had rather a generous portion of Romulan ale for the hollidays, I'm afraid. Chalk my poor spelling up to age combined with drink.

 

[Lt. Trull]

Oh nice enough places, really, but not so technical-minded, not that I demand it all the time, but it would be frakkin nice if I could use the term "Jeffreries Tube" without having half the peeps ask me what I'm talkin' about.

That's down the hall from the fallopian tube is it not?
and yes I know where it's from... it's honorific.

 

[GhostFaceSaint]

Jeez I hope we get a new Starship Technical manual in the 2010 publishing season with concrete numbers answering the questions in this debate about the new revamped Starship Enterprise size. I want also just want a new tech. manual to have fun reading, a big one, with many Starship's described in detail!

 

[M'Sharak]

Jeez I hope we get a new Starship Technical manual in the 2010 publishing season with concrete numbers answering the questions in this debate about the new revamped Starship Enterprise size. I want also just want a new tech. manual to have fun reading, a big one, with many Starship's described in detail!

The manual we will be getting was covered here. (Scroll down a bit until you get to "BOOK NEWS – Haynes Enterprise Manual announced".)

 

[Creedence]

NuEnterprise FTW!

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

NuEnterprise FTW!

 

[F. King Daniel]

A refresher for people with common sense: While it’s understandable that the ship was designed at 366 meters and scaled up, the fact is it was scaled up for a very good reason. A 366 meter Enterprise wouldn’t fit the shuttles or the brewery and thus is fundamentally broken, whether it looks nicer on a size-comparison chart or not.
Please respond by posting dozens more of those near-identical size comparison charts ;-)