Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)
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Yes, please start using the sketch I made on a napkin instead.
Is there an accurate one?
Yes, on the ILM hard drives. Available to us? No. We only have the film to go by.
It seems clear to me that whoever designed the exterior of the Enterprise, with the window placements and bridge structure, was assuming it was around the same size as the original Enterprise, but whoever designed the shuttlebay was thinking it was much bigger.
The important thing, at least to me, is that when I was watching the movie it didn't seem to be ridiculously huge. I was not sitting there thinking "Why did they make the ship so damn big?". Except for the rather silly interior shots of the brewery with the towering ceilings that replaced engineering, the ship's scale seemed right at the time.
The important thing, at least to me, is that when I was watching the movie it didn't seem to be ridiculously huge. I was not sitting there thinking "Why did they make the ship so damn big?". Except for the rather silly interior shots of the brewery with the towering ceilings that replaced engineering, the ship's scale seemed right at the time.
I think you're right that the size might change yet again... Of course, Trek has a long history of wildly fluctuating ship sizes, so it would just be tradition.
(And, for the record, I much prefer the smaller sized ship. Scaling everything up to make it more "extreme" seems a little silly to me. But, as I said, when watching the movie it all looked right to me, at least from the outside, and it was only afterwards I realized there was any sort of controversy.)
I can't believe this discussion is still raging. What happened to the cease fire several pages back?! 
I agree 100%. Now ... where do we get the accurate reference again?
Well at least one thing is agreed upon in this thread, and that's the bridge does face forward.
I can't believe this discussion is still raging. What happened to the cease fire several pages back?!
Hell, as far as I'm concerned, DiSiLLUSiON's post a zillion pages back was the end of the matter. This is all just noise.
I can't believe this discussion is still raging. What happened to the cease fire several pages back?!
Hell, as far as I'm concerned, DiSiLLUSiON's post a zillion pages back was the end of the matter. This is all just noise.
Agreed.
No, seriously. If someone's got a good analysis with lots of screencaps and such; saying the E is another size, bring it on! But all I've seen are comparisons using a render that was modeled to be TMP-sized in the first place -- no wonder they come to the same conclusion.
I don't think any amount of analysis even really matters at this moment, considering that it looks like we were presented with a differently scaled Enterprise based on the shots...I'll wait for the manual I watched the movie last night, and the one thing I decided last night is that I really enjoyed the movie, and honestly was not all that concerned about how big the E supposedly was.
I watched the movie last night, and the one thing I decided last night is that I really enjoyed the movie, and honestly was not all that concerned about how big the E supposedly was.
I don't think any amount of analysis even really matters at this moment, considering that it looks like we were presented with a differently scaled Enterprise based on the shots...I'll wait for the manual
Indeed. The manual authors, whoever they will be, will be able to pester the ILM guys a lot more effectively than we can, and will necessarily pin them down if the models and set diagrams don't match.
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Ok.
The view screen is 28+ feet at 725 meters. At 900 meters the viewscreen would be 35+ feet. My living room is 30 feet long; I can tell you, that veiwscreen, as presented in the movie isn't 28+ feet in length. If they wanted the ship to be that long, then the viewscreen/window on the front of the saucer should be smaller to match the bridge set.
There's measurements from the set posted somewhere back in the dark recesses of this thread--I believe by Squiggy. Get ready for it:
The viewscreen on the set was 26' wide.
If I am not mistaken, and I could be, that is from that one article, and that guy could have been guessing. He is not an official of any kind associated with the production, and he does not state where he gets his measurements from. For all we know, he could just be making an estimation like so many of us on this forum have caught flak for
http://gizmodo.com/5241562/just-how-big-is-the-enterprises-viewscreen
This is incidentally the same site that put out the chart of the new Enterprise comparing it to the improperly scaled 615 meter Battlestar Galactica, and also states an incorrect size for the Refit Enterprise...
http://gizmodo.com/5253324/how-big-is-the-new-enterprise-compared-to-galactica
I can't believe this discussion is still raging. What happened to the cease fire several pages back?!
But circular arguments are a fantastic way to boost post-count!
I don't think any amount of analysis even really matters at this moment, considering that it looks like we were presented with a differently scaled Enterprise based on the shots...I'll wait for the manual
Indeed. The manual authors, whoever they will be, will be able to pester the ILM guys a lot more effectively than we can, and will necessarily pin them down if the models and set diagrams don't match.
Let's hope they do
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