Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation memory?

[Mr. Adventure]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

I might have because I'm not sure I ever figured out the trick on my own.

 

[steveda19]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

Playstation home. Its ending in march I'm gonna miss it very much
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFJvtat3zD8[/yt]

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

My favorite memory:

Sony busting Micro$haft in the chops with their "how to share a videogame" video. Classic!


Worst news:
Lizard Squad doing DDoS attacks on both Sony and Xbox Live. I wasn't overly affected by it, but I was murderously outraged when I heard that thousands of kids (especially those who did get Xbox Ones) on Christmas could not use their XB1's or go online to play their friends with Sony or Xbox. Those kids who got Xbox Ones ended up with 400 dollar bricks until MS was able to get past the attacks. Lots of tearful kids on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day because some punkass bitches made a few keystrokes and fucked up Christmas 2014 for them..

I might not like Xbox One, but it doesn't mean I don't feel for those who had their holidays ruined because a few punks wanted to have a laugh.

A friend of mine posted this report at another forum I visit:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2863...following-xbox-livepsn-christmas-attacks.html


My reaction:


Well, that's all well and good, except that the Omari punk should not even be out on bail. They may have taken all his gear, but that's not going to stop him from going to an accomplice's house and pulling the same thing. If his fucking parents couldn't teach his little bitch-ass right from wrong, what makes anyone think the law will?

No, I won't be happy until their hands have been irreparably damaged beyond their ability to do anything more than lift a fork or spoon to their mouths so they can eat, severing their vocal chords so they cannot use vocal recognition software, and permanently hobbled....when they come to understand, in physical form, the suffering they inflict on people who didn't do a damn thing to them....then, I'll be mildly happy.


There is no such thing as a "good hacker" unless you are fighting crime or terrorism with your "so-called" talents. Otherwise, you are a terrorist, and deserve to be put down like the vermin you are....in front of your families.

 

[Aldo]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

I really have no idea how the Xbox One works, so when you say that thousands of kids were not able to play them on Christmas day because of the hackers I'm assuming that's because they can't play at all if not connected to the net?

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

I really have no idea how the Xbox One works, so when you say that thousands of kids were not able to play them on Christmas day because of the hackers I'm assuming that's because they can't play at all if not connected to the net?

Well, before they recanted a lot of the things that completely turned me against even looking at an Xbox One, one of their requirements was that the Xbox One had to always be online. I think they withdrew that (among some of the other things they tried to ram down buyers' throats), but, you still have to go online to set up your Xbox One. So, when the DDoS attacks happened, anyone who opened up an Xbox One for Christmas got a 450 dollar brick....at least until MS was able to get past the hacks.

I don't know if you can play Xbox One without an internet connection, but yes, you do have to have a connection to at least set it up for use. On that Christmas Eve and Day, those kids and buyers could not use their Xbox Ones. I was outraged for their misfortune....but, I will also not get an Xbox One, and that just added to the reasons why.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

There is no such thing as a "good hacker" unless you are fighting crime or terrorism with your "so-called" talents. Otherwise, you are a terrorist, and deserve to be put down like the vermin you are....in front of your families.

Careful, there, martok2112: A "hacker" is any person who uses something for a different purpose than it was intended for. If you've ever unbent a clothes hanger or paper clip to use them for anything other than hanging clothes or clipping papers, you're a hacker.

I'm sure you're referring to "black hat" hackers - at which point, I will only mostly agree. But there are still "black hats" that hack games and software and make them available without copy protection - the download of which has, at times, been the only way people who have legitimately bought the software in question could actually USE it because the copy protection methods hobbled things so badly or made them not work at all.

These people behind the XBox and Sony outages, OTOH, I have no sympathy for at all - if it had just been hacktivism against Microsoft and Sony, well, I'd have thought it sucked, but oh well. But these jackwagons then proceeded to announce that the attacks were just to demonstrate their DDOS capabilities - capabilities that they are willing to offer for hire to attack targets the renter desires attacked. They've allegedly caught two of them - one in the U.S., one in Finland, and while I'm against cruel and unusual punishment as a rule, I wouldn't wince too much to hear that they were using some harsh measures with those two to find their compatriots. The consequences of what they have shown they can do, directed at certain targets, could cause massive losses of lives and livelihoods.

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

Aye, I hear ya, Triumphant. However, I'm not gonna bandy words about "hackers" in some broad sense. I use the term "hacker" as it applies to the world today: someone who engages in computer activities meant to disrupt normal functions of networks, or who seek to commit criminal/terrorist activity online (theft, identity theft, security breaching, privacy invasion, bomb threats, etc.)

Hackers can apply euphemisms to their crimes all they want. Hacktivism? No. Terrorism....plain and simple.

The thing that worries me is summed up in your last statement, is that these punks were willing to sell their tools to others. What those punks did was nothing short of cyber-terrorism. Their motive being to maliciously alter the way innocent people live their lives. At that, they succeeded. So what if one of their buyers uses the DDoS tools (or other hacking tools) for something vital? Something that could actually endanger lives or livelihoods as you rightly suggested?

If you aren't using your "talents" to fight crime/terrorism or to help stop other hackers, then you're a black hat hacker, plain and simple. If you seek to disrupt someone's life (short term, long term, I really don't care) because it gives you a laugh, because you want to "show how strong your online kung fu is", or because your just really fucked in the head because mommy and daddy didn't give you enough attention/raise you right as a child, let's see how funny it is when you are being brutally beaten to down to a vegetable in front of your family. What hackers do is a cowardly crime, just like terrorism. They have no concern about the cruel and unusual crimes they commit toward people they may have never even met face to face...so I certainly don't care if they receive cruel and unusual punishment for their actions.

My message to hackers: You gonna be a punk? You can die like a punk.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

Intent matters. There's a decided difference between most Robin Hood style black hats like I mentioned bypassing copyright law, and mercenary companies like the ones responsible for these DDoSes. And "terrorism" is a term that gets tossed about a bit too much these days, when it probably should be reserved for asymmetrical warfare tactics that target civilians. Specificity matters when we live in a time when people would argue over whether or not someone wishing an actual terrorist a "Merry Christmas" would constitute "aid and comfort to an enemy" (they are "tidings of comfort and joy" after all) and some would suggest allowing a person doing so to be detained indefinitely. (See our latest NDAA for more details.) Things like that are why I object to hackers being all put in one basket.

Something happened recently that illustrates the point, I think, beautifully. Some hackers determined that some newer model cars from three manufacturers could be hacked and even control of steering could be obtained through the wireless connection between the tire sensors and the cars' main computers. They demonstrated this at a hacker expo. Two of the auto makers were (at least publicly) grateful and vowed to work with the hackers to correct the issue. One (Toyota, just so you know) instead decided to announce that they would be suing the hackers for revealing information that they could supposedly only have gotten by someone violating an NDA. Those hackers have doubtlessly saved innocent people's lives, and as far as I'm concerned, they are minor heroes, but cast your net too broadly, and they are "terrorists".

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

Yes, terrorism is thrown about quite a bit, but in the case of those Christmas hackers, I think it's well suited. They seek to disrupt peoples' lives, to force them to change their routines that they would otherwise have no problems with?

"Daddy, can I get an Xbox One this year for Christmas, since you said we could afford it?"
"Not for Christmas, son. Do you not remember? I told you about the Christmas grinches last year, who ruined Christmas for thousands of children (and adults) by making their Xboxes not work? Let's wait til your birthday."
"But, daddy, that's ....that's. ....forever from now!"
"I know, son, but I don't want your Christmas ruined because of those punks. Thanks to them, we can't even have the Christmas I'd love to give you."
"....... I HATE CHRISTMAS, DADDY!!!!!"

The above fictional example is a bit extreme, but probably pretty true for some folks now.

I don't believe in "Robin Hood" hackers either. It's a company's right to protect their work by whatever copyright laws allow. People can vote with their wallets. Hackers just exacerbate the problem. There's a differnce between proving something to be unpopular, and having one's work become a target for punks who think: "Hack the planet!".


Ugh...I have to go to work for now. Sorry. Gaahhhh....curse this theeeng called "Wooorrrrrkkkkk!".

 

[USS Triumphant]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

It's a company's right to protect their work by whatever copyright laws allow.

First, companies don't have rights. People do. Attempts by lawyers and our recent dimwitted SCOTUS to change that notwithstanding.

Second, Jefferson and other founders thought that 20 years was an ample amount of time to allow copyright holders what amounts to a monopoly on their works, so they could profit from their work before the public good required that those works be made available to all, for research, enjoyment, and expansion. Our lives are longer now, I'd allow that 30 years is fair. Do you know what it actually is, thanks to the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act? Life of the author + 70 years. It's completely ridiculous. Do you know how many works of literature will enter the public domain this year? ZERO.

So if a hacker is making works that SHOULD be public domain available, or breaking really stupid or onerous copy protection schemes, or acting to preserve works that the copyright holders neither see fit to continue to offer OR to preserve (the situation with ROMs for games from the late 70s and early 80s is just plain sad), then I would very much consider them "good" black hats - it is the responsibility of every citizen to disobey bad laws or orders. Being on a Trek board, I'd think people would know that.

And while I've already said how I feel about the DDoS hackers, to be clear, Christmas being ruined is sad, but it is very much a First World Problem. "Terrorism" is when you can't walk to the corner store for fear of being blown up, or when your mom and little sister can't come home anymore because someone blew up the church they were in to make a statement. Your kid will get over waiting a few months to play Assassin's Creed Unity.

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

You make good points, Triumphant.

I'm not always one for logic. Just because I belong to a Trek board doesn't make me, or mean that I'm smarter or "more enlightened" than the next person. .

I guess my point is, yeah, the Christmas hacks will be (and obviously have been) gotten over, but I say make examples of those punks...because as I understand it, Lizard Squad also made a bomb threat in regards to that Seth Rogen movie "The Interview". Now they've stepped into grown up, true terrorism territory. They need to be hunted down and put away since they're going to that level. (Now I could give two shits less about anything with Seth Rogen in it....but bomb threats are bomb threats, no matter how bad a movie might suck.)

With the territory the Lizard Squad is venturing into, they must have some kind of manifesto.


Hahahaha.....SCOTUS.


Ach, but I've hijacked this thread unintentionally. I'll drop the matter.

Back to original topic.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

How's this for getting back on topic, the original Playstation startup sound! How could you hear this and not expect something epic to follow?

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaONOQswRSQ[/yt]

 

[CorporalClegg]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

The PSX's BIOS ping is my favorite sound ever.

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

How's this for getting back on topic, the original Playstation startup sound! How could you hear this and not expect something epic to follow?

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaONOQswRSQ[/yt]

Agreed completely!

 

[DrBob]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

PaRappa the Rapper!

http://youtu.be/reSJJ-QW1tw

 

[Rincewiend]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

Suikoden 1 & 2 rocked

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmR814N8x8[/yt]

 

[SPCTRE]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

ISS Pro was GOAT on PSX.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh8-JBBXKv8[/yt]

My first game (alongside Destruction Derby 2) was Adidas Power Soccer, though.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsPFTtp3h8[/yt]

 

[martok2112]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

I remember I got the original PlayStation when it first came out because it had a link function so that one could deathmatch with two PSX's and two TV's. My friends and I used to love playing DOOM and Descent/Descent Maximum via link mode. I used to have a really cool third party flight stick/thruster module with which I used to dominate my friends who were stuck with the milk bone controllers.

Originally, I was going to get an Atari Jaguar because it had link mode for DOOM, and it had Alien vs Predator. But a game advisor at Software Etc (before it all became GameStop) said: "Do yourself a favor and wait for the Sony PlayStation to come out.". I was going to trade in my Sega Genesis and my SNES (and all the games and peripherals I had for them to get Jaguar, but, took his advice and instead traded them towards a PSX. It is a decision I have never regretted. . )

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

I was going to trade in my Sega Genesis and my SNES (and all the games and peripherals I had for them to get Jaguar, but, took his advice and instead traded them towards a PSX. It is a decision I have never regretted. . )

I did the same because I couldn't afford it at the time otherwise but I now have some regret over not having my old systems.

 

[DBR]

Re: Since launching 20 years ago, what's your favorite PlayStation mem

The very first Rachet and Clank game remains one of my favourite Playstation experiences. It was right up my alley, and the first time I looked at the Playstation as something other than a piece of junk competitor to my beloved Nintendo (unfair? probably, but I've always been a Nintendo Dweeb first and foremost.)