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Simon Pegg, Doug Jung To Write Star Trek 3

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Nah, I didn't really try that hard.

but I'm not the one who took a comment about an unnamed director personally and tried to lecturize someone over their vocabulary and the 'law' in a quite transparent attempt to simply derail the topic and the point I was making re: why Pegg doesn't come across, to me, as someone who is a fan of women unless they are eye candy. That was just one example at the top of my mind when I made my flippant comment, but it isn't the only statement by him that gave me sexist vibes.
Sorry if my opinion is hurting someone's delicate feelings here, but I'm not impressed by his writing and I don't see all this depth and character development he supposedly is able to put in his scripts. And at best, he seems to only care about the male characters anyway. No wonder why some people are happy about him writing trek. I don't.

Neverthless, I think I'm as entlitled to have opinions as you and your friend and it doesn't seem to me I called other posters names here. If you want to disagree with me you are entlitled to do that. What you are not entlitled to is calling me crazy simply because you don't like my opinion.
I didn't read any of this. Nothing personal, I'm just not interested in whatever reasons you had. I made my point, I'm done. Good luck with your future endeavors.
 
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And I know all too well what forum I'm posting in with this thread (translation: I know there a lot of TNG-ENT era haters that post in here), but FC is one of the things that B&B and Moore actually got right, IMHO.

Can we stop saying "B&B"? Granted, this time it actually is kind of accurate given both Berman and Braga did work on First Contact, but Trek fandom seems to be under the constant mistaken impression that Braga was somehow Berman's partner in crime in running the Trek Empire when his only real power was co-writing two movies, running two seasons of Voyager and three seasons of Enterprise To say First Contact is one thing "B&B" got right is quite the interesting statement given it's only the second time Berman and Braga actually worked together.
 
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Chris Pine will just have to get used to seeing Captain Perfect-Hair in the script.

Right before memorising his every line of dialogue. :)
 
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It does not matter who they are, we must support them. I want to meet people after watching the film and say "Holy shit I need to see it, again". I want this feeling again.
I remember when I watched The Wrath of Khan. I knew nothing about Spock´s dead. Amazing! :drool:
 
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Chris Pine will just have to get used to seeing Captain Perfect-Hair in the script.

Right before memorising his every line of dialogue. :)

:lol:

That line was funny, no doubt pegg has great comic timing which I think will be fine for trek as trek has always had humour. the main question is will pegg go overboard with it.

I hope not but then again, I wont be surprised. There are rumours of paramount wanting trek to be like Guardians of the galaxy and that film has turns of humour that I found NOT VERY FUNNY,
 
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Because Star Trek's writing staff has always been overrun with somebodies...

Orci was probably the biggest name to ever pen a Trek film.

All Do respect to Simon Pegg ( I am especially a fan of Shawn of the Dead), he may be playing the role of Scotty, and he may have written for some of his own movies, but I am just not convinced he's right for this. I'd wager if most posters here were being honest, few actually knew who Doug Jung was before this article, without looking him up.

But let's take a look at some of the better Star Trek movies of the past:

Star Trek TMP (as was a number of ST books) was written by Alan Dean Foster, who as it happens wrote the novelizations of ST 2009 & STID, as well. I think HE would have been a good choice for Star Trek 13, actually. At least as one of the writers, anyway. He's a great sci fi writer and author in general, IMHO, and I think he could bring back more of that missing sci fi element.

Orci did have a lot of accomplishments especially with Herc and Xena, and you are better off NOT mentioning Transformers, but Harve Bennett and Nicholas Meyer had a hell of a lot more sci fi chops than Orci when each took on Star Trek. Bennett especially given his Six Million Dollar Man/Bionic Woman connection, which in 70s/early 80s were popular.

So I would say these guys were far from nobodies.

And I know all too well what forum I'm posting in with this thread (translation: I know there a lot of TNG-ENT era haters that post in here), but FC is one of the things that B&B and Moore actually got right, IMHO.


So bringing it around, I would have liked to see writer(s) with more sci fi experience.
This is all your opinion and lacks perspective.
 
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Is there really enough time to do this now? I mean filming starts April 15, less than 3 months. They have to hammer out a new script, get approval, then start pre-production in building all the sets, etc and have all that ready for filming by April 15?

Oh, tch, relax. The movie isn't going to be more than two hours, and even if there's like an hour of cut or deleted or alternate scenes, well, I'm sure the writers can find three whole hours to type up a script by April. Many of them can touch-type many of the letters, you know!

Seems to me the script has to be done WAY before April because after the approval then the sets have to be built and locations chosen for filming (if they are going to differ from what was picked before), can all that be done for cameras to roll in about 2 months?
 
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Is there really enough time to do this now? I mean filming starts April 15, less than 3 months. They have to hammer out a new script, get approval, then start pre-production in building all the sets, etc and have all that ready for filming by April 15?

Oh, tch, relax. The movie isn't going to be more than two hours, and even if there's like an hour of cut or deleted or alternate scenes, well, I'm sure the writers can find three whole hours to type up a script by April. Many of them can touch-type many of the letters, you know!

Seems to me the script has to be done WAY before April because after the approval then the sets have to be built and locations chosen for filming (if they are going to differ from what was picked before), can all that be done for cameras to roll in about 2 months?
Well, the birdge shouldn't be a problem, since they know they're going to need a bridge, so, even if they don't have it already from the end of STiD, they could start building that now.

Films and TV shows often don't film in the same order they come in, in the script. So, I don't think that's as a big a concern as you believe it is.
 
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And I know all too well what forum I'm posting in with this thread (translation: I know there a lot of TNG-ENT era haters that post in here), but...
I don't understand why you keep trying to make something adversarial out of what doesn't need to be.


  • It's a fact that these movies are set in the TOS timeframe and use TOS characters.
  • It's also no secret that Modern Trek made a point from the beginning of doing some things differently than TOS had.
  • Simply wanting some or all of those differently-done things to be omitted from these movies does not make anyone a "TNG-ENT hater".
  • Most of the people who post here are just fine with Modern Trek and have enjoyed some or all of those series.
So why not take that unnecessary "faithful fan among the heretics" chip off your shoulder, eh? Join the conversation or don't join—that's up to you—but we're all Trek fans here.
 
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I prefer it in the original Klingon.
 
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Wait, this is a Star Trek forum? I thought it was for Pocahontas!

Boy, am I lost!
 
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Writers' names are not spoilers.
 
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Star Trek TMP ... was written by Alan Dean Foster....

Not quite.

Foster took the germ of Roddenberry's Genesis II story idea "Robot's Return" and did a treatment for it for the Star Trek II TV pilot film. The actual script assignment was taken by Harold Livingston. This is why Foster has a Story By credit, but not a screenplay credit. He didn't write any draft of the script.
 
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Oh, tch, relax. The movie isn't going to be more than two hours, and even if there's like an hour of cut or deleted or alternate scenes, well, I'm sure the writers can find three whole hours to type up a script by April. Many of them can touch-type many of the letters, you know!

Seems to me the script has to be done WAY before April because after the approval then the sets have to be built and locations chosen for filming (if they are going to differ from what was picked before), can all that be done for cameras to roll in about 2 months?
Well, the birdge shouldn't be a problem, since they know they're going to need a bridge, so, even if they don't have it already from the end of STiD, they could start building that now.

Films and TV shows often don't film in the same order they come in, in the script. So, I don't think that's as a big a concern as you believe it is.

Maybe I'm very out of touch on how things go and in what order but doesn't the script have to be done first before any building goes on? Don't the set team have to have a script or know what to build according to the script?
 
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Seems to me the script has to be done WAY before April because after the approval then the sets have to be built and locations chosen for filming (if they are going to differ from what was picked before), can all that be done for cameras to roll in about 2 months?
Well, the birdge shouldn't be a problem, since they know they're going to need a bridge, so, even if they don't have it already from the end of STiD, they could start building that now.

Films and TV shows often don't film in the same order they come in, in the script. So, I don't think that's as a big a concern as you believe it is.

Maybe I'm very out of touch on how things go and in what order but doesn't the script have to be done first before any building goes on? Don't the set team have to have a script or know what to build according to the script?

Not necessarily. Sometimes filming actually begins without a script. Granted, those are movies which are under tight deadlines and the end result is usually undesirable garbage, but it happens. The film industry after all operates on one golden rule: cheap, good, or on time, you can only have two. A script would certainly be helpful to getting things done properly, but properly is a term that is rarely adhered to in the film industry.
 
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