Silo (Apple TV+) | Rebecca Ferguson, David Oyelowo, Tim Robbins

[Reverend]

You know for like 5 seconds there I thought I had it figured out; "Ah! They walk everywhere because they're not allowed to build lifts! That must be because they're in a spun-up asteroid and the coriolis effect would be a dead giveaway!"
But no. If that were the case then the "surface" would be "down" not "up". Also wouldn't explain the idyllic scenery up top that mysteriously seems to choke people to death, or the need to deepfake it as a poisoned hellscape.

Hmm . . . mind you, the surface camera only points to the horizon, not up. So if it was a ring or O'Neal cylinder type of arrangement, they'd still be able to see the stars from the "middle". . . but then where's the geothermal energy supposed to be coming from? Unless they're sat of a terrifying amount of uranium ore and that thing is really a VERY big RTG.

I guess there's always the too obvious "it's a really weird Truman Show" theory to fall back on . . .

 

[Morpheus 02]

my wife and i have been enjoying the show... we are willing to have some suspension of disbelief... but kinda sad some of our favorite characters are dying... feels almost too centered on Rebecca Ferguson's character

But defintiely want to see what is next....


Just realized, this has a Wayward Pines vibe feel to it to me

 

[JD]

As Rebecca Ferguson is an executive producer, I assume her character Juliette survives her peril. I didn't get around to listening to the audiobooks again. I'm enjoying this series much more than For All Mankind and Foundation on Apple TV+.

Have you seen See? I really enjoy that one.

 

[Advent Zwetschgenknödel]

Have you seen See? I really enjoy that one.

See hasn't been renewed, has it? I wasn't interested in the premise, anyway. I might try Ted Lasso and Severance. I'll also be watching Season 2 of Foundation in the hope that it improves. Season 1 had some good elements, even though it diverged wildly from the books. The Cleon clone storyline was the best part, and that is pretty much 100% non-original.

 

[JD]

See wasn't renewed but as far as I know it's still available to watch.

 

[Morpheus 02]

See wasn't renewed but as far as I know it's still available to watch.

They concluded the storyline on season 3... i liked it for the characters. For example, Jason Mamoa did a great job doing a caring dad

 

[JD]

Yeah, the cast is fantastic.

 

[Advent Zwetschgenknödel]

my wife and i have been enjoying the show... we are willing to have some suspension of disbelief... but kinda sad some of our favorite characters are dying... feels almost too centered on Rebecca Ferguson's character

It's pretty faithful to the book Wool in that regard. I suspect subsequent seasons will intersperse events from Shift and Dust and Juliette will cease to be the main character followed in all episodes.

 

[KennyB]

Caught up today. It’s holding my interest for sure.

 

[Advent Zwetschgenknödel]

It's one of few of the current crop of TV shows that I look forward to watching. Despite the alterations, it's going in the same general direction as the novels so I think this season will end with a cliff-hanger for Juliette that I won't reveal.

 

[Aragorn]

You should've clicked on the TPS Reports file!!!!!

 

[Advent Zwetschgenknödel]

Still enjoying it, but it's very "The Perils of Pauline". All the characters - even Jules - are shades of grey, and the motivations for the actions of Bernard Holland and Robert Sims are logical, although these motivations, while hinted at, have not yet been fully revealed to the show viewers.

 

[777]

wow...that ending was a hell of a twist...

 

[Reverend]

Still not exactly clear on what's going on.

Spoiler: Finale

I mean sure; there's more than one Silo, that's been obvious since wotsizface started talking about the hidden door, and confirmed when they did a close-up shot if the special key with the number 18 on it.

But what I'm unclear on is if the outside really is as dead and horrible as they're pretending it is . . . why the double bluff? What's the point of the idyllic hologram? The only thing I can think of is that the hologram is the work of outsiders meant to tempt Silo dwellers out to their death (which may have been what the rebellion and pact was really about), and they have to alter the image back to mimic what it actually looks like. But then why even show it at all? Also what's with the ban on elevators and magnifiers? What damaging secret would vertical travel reveal?

I'm sure there are answers to all of this, it's just as cliffhanger endings go, that felt a little bit of an anti climax.

 

[Advent Zwetschgenknödel]

Spoiler: Hint about the ban on using high magnification and what happened outside.

There's plenty of room at the bottom.

 

[AntonyF]

Sad to see such a short thread, I think this has been great. And so well produced.

my wife and i have been enjoying the show... we are willing to have some suspension of disbelief... but kinda sad some of our favorite characters are dying... feels almost too centered on Rebecca Ferguson's character

I felt that a bit with Rebecca at times, but wondered if this was because of the bait and switch.

Not sure about you but if she were front and centre episode one we wouldn't think much of it. Our bias is to be introduced to characters in episode one and get to know them. Because they did the bait and switch, she almost feels like the wrong person to me mentally a times. I admit it's purely because of how TV has trained me, there's no logic to it.

I suspect some of that bias is why people went crazy over Ned Stark in GoT. Because... TV isn't meant to work that way!

 

[AntonyF]

Still not exactly clear on what's going on.

Spoiler: Finale

I mean sure; there's more than one Silo, that's been obvious since wotsizface started talking about the hidden door, and confirmed when they did a close-up shot if the special key with the number 18 on it.

But what I'm unclear on is if the outside really is as dead and horrible as they're pretending it is . . . why the double bluff? What's the point of the idyllic hologram? The only thing I can think of is that the hologram is the work of outsiders meant to tempt Silo dwellers out to their death (which may have been what the rebellion and pact was really about), and they have to alter the image back to mimic what it actually looks like. But then why even show it at all? Also what's with the ban on elevators and magnifiers? What damaging secret would vertical travel reveal?

I'm sure there are answers to all of this, it's just as cliffhanger endings go, that felt a little bit of an anti climax.

Not 100% sure on that, but I wondered if was something to do with the cleaning process. They want them to calmly clean to "show the real world" then wander quietly into the distance. Rather than smashing at the window going "let me back in!"

Could also be just out of kindness maybe... euthanising people in a kind way.

 

[Reverend]

Not 100% sure on that, but I wondered if was something to do with the cleaning process. They want them to calmly clean to "show the real world" then wander quietly into the distance. Rather than smashing at the window going "let me back in!"

Could also be just out of kindness maybe... euthanising people in a kind way.

I wondered if it might be something along those lines. I mean they certainly are euthanising them what with the whole rigged heat tape thing; but that seems like a very odd way to go about getting such a specific desired reaction.
Then there's the bodies; so far as I can tell; they weren't really there either. So something seems to be removing them (or they're not actually dead) and part of the overlay is placing them there.

I just hope there's a good explanation for some of this; I really do dislike poorly constructing mysteries that just superficially feign enigma without any real substance behind them (looking at you 'Lost'!)

 

[AntonyF]

I suspect it will be elaborated on in season two. And thank god it's not Netflix, we get a season two!

 

[Morpheus 02]

Sad to see such a short thread, I think this has been great. And so well produced.



I felt that a bit with Rebecca at times, but wondered if this was because of the bait and switch.

Not sure about you but if she were front and centre episode one we wouldn't think much of it. Our bias is to be introduced to characters in episode one and get to know them. Because they did the bait and switch, she almost feels like the wrong person to me mentally a times. I admit it's purely because of how TV has trained me, there's no logic to it.

I suspect some of that bias is why people went crazy over Ned Stark in GoT. Because... TV isn't meant to work that way!

I think the lack of response here is because it is on Apple Plus... one of the lower prioritized streaming services. Also, not as well advertised/talked about , as say, Severence.

Also , i too felt a bit of bait-and-switch with David Oyelowo listed second in the credits, seemingly the star in the first couple episodes, and then completely gone. If there was a third character at the end, where we are made to feel "no one is safe", then that might "feel" better.

I wondered if it might be something along those lines. I mean they certainly are euthanising them what with the whole rigged heat tape thing; but that seems like a very odd way to go about getting such a specific desired reaction.
Then there's the bodies; so far as I can tell; they weren't really there either. So something seems to be removing them (or they're not actually dead) and part of the overlay is placing them there.

I just hope there's a good explanation for some of this; I really do dislike poorly constructing mysteries that just superficially feign enigma without any real substance behind them (looking at you 'Lost'!)

It's one of few of the current crop of TV shows that I look forward to watching. Despite the alterations, it's going in the same general direction as the novels so I think this season will end with a cliff-hanger for Juliette that I won't reveal.

Would you say that the season finale lived up to what you read, or different?

Still not exactly clear on what's going on.

Spoiler: Finale

I mean sure; there's more than one Silo, that's been obvious since wotsizface started talking about the hidden door, and confirmed when they did a close-up shot if the special key with the number 18 on it.

But what I'm unclear on is if the outside really is as dead and horrible as they're pretending it is . . . why the double bluff? What's the point of the idyllic hologram? The only thing I can think of is that the hologram is the work of outsiders meant to tempt Silo dwellers out to their death (which may have been what the rebellion and pact was really about), and they have to alter the image back to mimic what it actually looks like. But then why even show it at all? Also what's with the ban on elevators and magnifiers? What damaging secret would vertical travel reveal?

I'm sure there are answers to all of this, it's just as cliffhanger endings go, that felt a little bit of an anti climax.

Spoiler: Finale

it was pretty clear to me that the tape that Juliette gotten was "better quality". The tape the other cleaners did i think leaked in whatever toxic gas came into the suit. There's a certain amount of time it is supposed to seep in and take effect, hence why the Mayor said "right on cue" when Juliette went to the ground,thinking she was collapsing.

What has happened in the past, with the suit's fake visual, is that everyone who goes out wants to explore the seemingly beautiful environment... they clean because they think that is what people will see, and they wander off to explore, at least just enough to take in this "new world", but due to the tape, they slowly die before being able to go back to warn others.

Also, the Pact says it is irrevocable, so it's not like they can do anything, and just makes sense to find someplace nice to be..

i don't think it is euthanizing as much as killing people in a way that doesn't seem like it was done on purpose.

Definitely interested in finding out about the removal of bodies.

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