runabouts surelyhave room for toilets, but any most of the other shuttle we saw don't
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runabouts surelyhave room for toilets, but any most of the other shuttle we saw don't
In a third season episode of VOY, Neelix and another Talaxian routinely use a shuttle's transporters to beam in to a space station and a nearby planet.
DS9 had 3 or 4 Runabouts permanently assigned. The Runabouts were complete starships in their own right, although sized only a bit larger than a shuttlecraft.
I like to think that the seats folded up, revealing an appropriately sized porthole to the waste extraction unit on the bottom of the shuttle.
There is no modesty in the 24th century.
In broadstrokes, yes. However they are considerably larger than the standard "space helo"-esque designs like the Type-6 (the main full-size shuttle from TNG):
Example from a cropped screenshot of a ditl.org's size comparasion pages
That's what I always figured; fold up the seat to go. Even without modesty, I'm sure the pilot will turn on and opaque the force field behind you. You might not mind if the pilot sees your penis, but she does; nor does she want to smell your business.
That was Tom Paris's bad dream after watching too much Flash Gordon.
That looks too big to me.In broadstrokes, yes. However they are considerably larger than the standard "space helo"-esque designs like the Type-6 (the main full-size shuttle from TNG):
Example from a cropped screenshot of a ditl.org's size comparasion pages
What about modifying the transporter technology so that the "matter" is beamed directly from your bladder and colon to be recycled into raw material for the replicator. Waste not, want not...
I wondered back when TOS was broadcast if transporter tech could be employed for medical use -- delivering babies, excising tumours or foreign objects, and so on. Indeed, IIRC such a method was mooted in the TNG episode "Ethics" as a way to replace Worf's damaged spine with a cloned one.
and that's why I Always hated transporters
Anyways, shuttles should stay sublight, used only to move from ship to a planet or into a solar system.
No replicators, transporter, shields, weapons (not a that size at least)
No replicators, transporter, shields, weapons (not a that size at least)
They look like RVs.
There is a good chance future replicated food can be 100% efficient- everything is used as nourishment with no byproducts to eliminate. The only time you would need to take a crap would be after a nice homecooked meal...
The runabouts are quite a bit bigger than a standard shuttle. In DS9 it's hard to tell the difference in size though, as they're most often shown flying through space or orbiting a planet and tend to just look like a shuttle. We rarely if ever see more than just the cockpit either, again just like the shuttles. However when we see one in TNG it's shown to have quite a spacious living area. I'd have liked to have seen a shot of one in the Enterprise shuttle bay alongside some regular shuttles.
I think of the runabouts as being more like scout vessels than shuttles.
LOL no they aren't allowed
There's several TNG episodes where a shuttle has been traveling at warp over long distances. Most notably, Parallels comes immediately to mind, where Worf is traveling back from Klingon (presumably, since I doubt they'd hold it in Federation space) space in a shuttlecraft after having taken part in a bat'leth tournament.
In regards to Runabouts, a duck is a duck is a duck. They're just a different class of shuttlecraft as far as I'm concerned; if it's docked on a starship (or starbase) and used to get from here to there and back again, it's a shuttlecraft.
Not as per visuals (no starstreaks) or dialogue.
The thing about "dropped off" is that we never can tell. That is, there's nothing there against assuming that shuttles all alone in space have recently been dropped off.
The thing about "Mind's Eye" is that we hear for a rare once in explicit dialogue how the reverse trip goes: LaForge (claims that he) was picked up by a warp-capable vessel that delivered him to the E-D. He refers to this as a fortunate turn of events, but this doesn't mean the original plan wouldn't have involved a pickup as well. He just (claims he) got a better deal than originally planned.
Since we see in several episodes that starships either slow to impulse close to stars, or then move extremely slowly near stars even when the warp engines are redlining (say, "Paradise Syndrome" or ST4:TVH), it makes sense to use a small shuttlecraft for the insystem leg of a voyage, rather than force the entire starship to waste hours in that speed-challenged environment...
We should note that TNG never could afford to show a shuttle at warp - there were no starstreaks visible through a shuttlecraft window in any episode. However, the very same Type 6 prop was doing explicit warp in VOY a couple of years later, complete with starstreaks...
A typical case of potential pickup/dropoff. The shuttle only travels at impulse, at a nondescript phase of its mission (not "final approach" or anything), and Worf is dictating a relevant log in a fashion that would befit the "Ahh, now I have been sitting on this comfortable seat for a full minute - time to tell to the audience what just happened" scenario. It would be odd for him to wait until two hours let alone two days into the flight before dictating a log with this type of content...
As for the specifics, we know Worf is coming from a planet named Forcas III. We don't know where the E-D is when it picks up Worf. Might be the orbit of Forcas IV for all we know.
Also, interestingly, in one of the realities Worf dictates a log establishing that he sent Kurn in his place to the tournament (the results of which are not yet known to him at the time of the dictating). This log has the same stardate as the logs in which he tells about his various returns from the tournament, suggesting travel time plays a negligible role in the affair.
By the same token, Kirk's ship is a shuttlecraft in "Journey to Babel" and the like. It's just a matter of size and performance, of which the Danube class seems to have plenty.
Timo Saloniemi
Yes, I was about to mention that. The fact that the shuttle has warp engines is crucial to the plot. The fact that Worf returns to Enterprise in the shuttlecraft (and has time to reminisce in a personal log entry) rather than just being beamed up indicates he has travelled from another star system.
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