She had no name in TOS. If she has a name here it's another universe :: likely actual complaints we'll see at some point LOL::
Should Uhura be called by her first name? Nyota.
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She had no name in TOS. If she has a name here it's another universe :: likely actual complaints we'll see at some point LOL::
I made three posts in this thread, only one was a swipe at a show I didn't like.
It is but I think that is what they were going for by making Starfleet a military style organization with characters following protocols and rules and a chain of command.
I liked it, too,
Feelz are cool now. Order, reason, protocol, formality, not so much.
We saw people call each other by first names and nick names. "Jim", "Scotty", "Bones", "Joe"...
I did like the gimmick in '09 where her first name was kept from Kirk for 3 years. Like it was special, only for her true friends. She apparently got over that by Beyond when she told Krall her full name. Oh well.
This is seemingly doing it's own unique take on the material (at least until the fanrage starts and the showrunners backpedal), so whatever they go with is fine by me.
This is seemingly doing it's own unique take on the material (at least until the fanrage starts and the showrunners backpedal), so whatever they go with is fine by me.
Here's the thing-you can do both. I see it portrayed as an all or nothing thing, when that is pretty much the antithesis of Star Trek. Star Trek is not about cold logic, pragmatic decision making and following protocols. It is about finding a balance between that and the emotional. I follow the rules and chain of command for my work. I also know the Chief Operations Officer by first name, and speak with the director of HR by first name. We work within the chain of command while also being open, warm and relatable.
And even in Star Trek McCoy is "Bones," Scott is "Scotty" and an Admiral calls Kirk "Jim" in a TOS film. This idea of strict rule adherence is an interesting one because it is not one that presented always in Star Trek itself.
Feelings need to be normalized not brushed aside. Order and reason are fine, when humanized, not conforming all to one order. Formality? Yeah, Trek has had that sparingly.
I feel TOS was the best with a more loose but still strict discipline than TNG. TNG was very by the book often in how characters approached situations. Of course Discovery is maybe the worst. They are to loose to a point where it's almost like a bunch of teenagers just hanging out exploring deep feelings and doing things just because it's cool.
Mmmm...having recently worked around teenagers I feel this is an assumption.
Good, then it will be quite consistent with TOS which was replete with the crew's emotional outbursts and discussions about "feelz".
Star Trek isn't about emotions! It's always logical...right? That's what the Internet tells me
Examples, because chain of command in the series is at it's height right now with the CINC of Starfleet and the President of the UFP literally telling them what to do and where to go. Very different than TOS or TNG stumbling up on the crisis of the week. (Yes sometimes they were there on orders) That said all Trek captains "go off the reservation" from time to time. It's pretty much a job requirement.
Cue a Kirk monologue about love and a McCoy rant about feelings. Oh and Spock begrudgingly agreeing.
I am talking more in how the characters talked to each other when on duty. Lots of Yes Sir's and explaining the problem with cold unemotional tech talk. People looked at Picard as the boss and not just a fellow friend who has a better job than them.
Lorca, Pike and Burnham seem very much in charge on Disco. Lower ranks are allowed familiarity with each other. Sulu and Uhura are shown to be friends. Chekov too. Data and Geordi, Bev and Troi as well. So again. Examples.
Burnham, Pike and Saru all had yes, sirs as well. They were the boss and confidant. More of a coaching style with Pike and Saru that authoritarian dictatorship. Which reflects current real world leadership changes.
If people follow orders then it works. If you have good people who have proper training then it is a demonstration of trust in their abilities.
Have you ever served?
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