Should they bring back Janeway?
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I am glad to meet someone who buys as many books as I do. Though I don't buy the TOS or the early period books. (just doesn't interest me).
Thanks for the condescension, but no. See, here's the thing: this is the TREKLIT forum. If you don't read the books, you're in the wrong place. It's really that simple. It's no more exclusionary than telling someone who wants a Big Mac that they're in a pizza parlor and they're welcome to have a pizza, but they don't do Big Macs here.
And for the thousandth time, as you keep getting told by them, there have always been Voyager and Janeway fans here. They just happen to be Voyager and Janeway fans who read the books. I wouldn't necessarily consider myself one, but I've bought and read every Voyager novel.
I'm curious... if Janeway had died in Nemesis, would this conversation be happening... or if Janeway had been beheaded?
I'd rather death not be treated like a revolving door in any universe... But if a story comes up that requires it, sure why not?
Personally, I'd like to see a Temporal Clone of Janeway as a Lt. Cmd. come forward through time to the present and be assigned to the Voyager Fleet.
Mostly just because it has great potential.
Personally, I'd like to see a Temporal Clone of Janeway as a Lt. Cmd. come forward through time to the present and be assigned to the Voyager Fleet.
Mostly just because it has great potential.
yes, to suck.
Wow, Harsh Much.
Beh. I can think of 5 writers off the top of my head on this very board that could make that idea work out fantastically whether over the course of several novels, or one especially good Myriad Universe release.
It's never the idea itself, but rather how the idea is expanded upon.
Mirror Universe Janeway could be Chakotay's beard...
Wasn't she already?
Has anyone yet floated the idea of a "Deaths of Janeway" anthology, with each story offing the good captain in a unique and compelling manner? There could be prizes for "most meaningful" and "most disrespectful."
Judging by the popularity of these threads I think there might be a market for this.
Judging by the popularity of these threads I think there might be a market for this.
yes, at least twice.
Correction: Many Janeway fans myself included have stated that we have purchased many of the Voyager books. However, as AuntKate stated there simply hasn't been much available to purchase the last several years.
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As has also been stated MULTIPLE times we want books to buy and read that feature Janeway.
It makes no sense actually. Like I said before as long as Janeway remains dead no one is making money off of her character. There's a group of fans hungry for good stories about her. Most of the current Voyager readers have a legitimate concern about yet another dead character being brought back. However, if it was done well I doubt they would drop the series - with the exception of a few angry fanboys of course.
So nothing would change. Now most people are content with the Voyager line - with the exception of a few angry fanboys and -girls of course.
I believe you misunderstood my post. If Janeway were brought back and it was done well most people would be fine with it EXCEPT for a small minority of angry fanboys.
What would change? The Janeway fans who are currently not interested would become interested. While I personally believe it would be worth their while I'm not a market researcher. I do believe there are more Janeway fans out there than Pocket believed. Whether they believe they can make a profit off them is another thing.
Only difference between that post and yours is that in one of them, you consider yourself the majority, and in the other, YOU are the small minority of angry fanboys. What you're describing is what's happening NOW, except you're the group on the outside...
If any of your beliefs were mirrored by reality, the new books with Janeway dead wouldn't be selling as well as they are...
If any of your beliefs were mirrored by reality, the new books with Janeway dead wouldn't be selling as well as they are...
You've misunderstood. As discussed in previous posts there's uncertainly whether the books are doing well BECAUSE Janeway is dead or because the quality of writing has improved. It's ironic that Janeway fans have been waiting years for a decent book and when an author finally comes along who is not inclined to write the "angry fanboy" version of Janeway the character has already been slated to die.
Again, I believe the number of Janeway fans outnumber the "bitch needed to be taken down fanboy club" while the majority of the current Voyager readers either are indifferent or have the legitimate concern of a comeback being done well. This is not based on market research numbers any more than your opinion is. That's up to Pocket to do. The fact remains though that while she's dead she's not profitable.
It's wrong to say she's not profitable when she's dead. A few people on this very thread have decided to see what all the fuss is about and have bought Before Dishonor and the two recent Voyager books.
"See how the Voyager crew copes with Janeway's death" is making money off Janeway while she's pushing up daisies.
"See how the Voyager crew copes with Janeway's death" is making money off Janeway while she's pushing up daisies.
Sure, but now that it's dealt with in the last two novels just how much more mileage can Pocket expect to get out of it? If they don't bring her back then eventually references to her in the novels will slow down then stop completely and the character is no longer profitable.
Of course they will slow down. They have already slowed down. This reflects the characters moving on. This is VOYAGER, not JANEWAY...the story is moving on.
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