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Should they bring back Janeway?

Bring back Janeway?

  • Bring her back

    Votes: 151 57.2%
  • Keep her dead

    Votes: 113 42.8%

  • Total voters
    264
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BD's ending was an obvious 'back-door' for bringing Janeway back - it was all but admitted that she's still, in some form or another, alive. It's almost certain that, when the book was written, the plan was to bring the character back after a while.
Margaret was clear at Shore Leave 2008 that Before Dishonor was meant to be permanent. The "backdoor" was to mollify concerns of Paramount Licensing, in case the books had to resurrect the character because of a post-Nemesis film that showed Janeway to be alive. Insofar as the people in charge at Pocket Books were concerned at the time, Janeway was dead and she was not coming back.

But, neither Margaret nor Marco are in charge at Pocket anymore, and whatever plans they had may no longer have any operative force.
 
...and Harry Kim is all telling this story like "So me and Janeway were crawling through Jeffries tubes practically all day and the whole time her gross mom butt is like 6 inches from my face, and the worst part...oh god haha. The worst part is that I was actually starting to..."

And then BOOM naked Janeway just comes crashing down in the middle of the table, and ALL HELL just breaks loose

SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!!!!
 
How did Brit handle "Andor: Paradigm", which features a tiny cameo by Nog, but every other character is non-canonical?

And that shows how strong TrekLit is these days... That never occurred to me at the time I read it, and didn't realize until you mentioned it right now. The new characters that have been added to the various series feel just as part of the crews as those that originated on the show.

This holds true to the additions to Voyager as well. Kirsten Beyer has hit a homerun with Voyager so far and I can't wait to read what she has for us next year.

I respectfully disagree. It just shows how plugged into TrekLit you are. If a new reader picked up the DS9 novel or the VOY one, they would most likely be disappointed to find that none of the characters they see on screen are there. I'd think that PB would be interested in expanding their readership rather than narrowing it by getting so far afield from the onscreen canon. That is, if their goal is to keep selling more books. ;)

I'm sure it's been said, but I doubt that there is a substantially larger number of people coming to the books new from the shows, at this point. How many years have they been off the air? Why should the onscreen material be superceding at this point? Is Voyager even on TV anywhere anymore?
 
snakespeare - out of curiosity, what recent TrekLit have you liked?

Hi Thrawn, I liked Destiny and Titan, mostly.

Then you'll like Beyer's Voyager.

I will, straight up, bet you the cost of the book. If you buy it and don't like it, I will email you an amazon.com gift certificate for $8. If you like it, you don't owe me anything. Seriously.

Deal?
 
snakespeare, posting three times in a roll is considered spam on this board. Further, what you posted in post 2 and 3:

As long as she doesn't come back naked though, that's one visualisation I personally could do with out.

SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!

...and Harry Kim is all telling this story like "So me and Janeway were crawling through Jeffries tubes practically all day and the whole time her gross mom butt is like 6 inches from my face, and the worst part...oh god haha. The worst part is that I was actually starting to..."

And then BOOM naked Janeway just comes crashing down in the middle of the table, and ALL HELL just breaks loose

SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!!!!

can be taken as spam. Please don't do it again.
 
Why should the onscreen material be superceding at this point?

Because licensed tie-ins don't direct the parent show.

Is Voyager even on TV anywhere anymore?
All seven seasons are available as DVD boxed sets. When JJ Abrams' movie came out, stores reported strong sales of all ST home video, so yeah, VOY potentially gains brand new avid fans every day.
 
Why should the onscreen material be superceding at this point?

Because licensed tie-ins don't direct the parent show.

Is Voyager even on TV anywhere anymore?

All seven seasons are available as DVD boxed sets. When JJ Abrams' movie came out, stores report strong sales of all ST home video, so yeah, VOY potentially gains brand new avid fans every day.

But there won't in all liklihood be any new VOY shot, ever again (see, prayer does work). So why shouldn't the books evolve as they have, to just keep a few folks wanting it to be what was shot in the 90s? That was my only point.
 
But there won't in all liklihood be any new VOY shot, ever again (see, prayer does work). So why shouldn't the books evolve as they have, to just keep a few folks wanting it to be what was shot in the 90s? That was my only point.

I would think there is still a likelihood that some future ST project may wish to revisit TNG, DS9, VOY or ENT, in some canonical way. Who knows what might happen after JJ's trilogy is done and dusted. Certainly, we've already seen Admiral Janeway as a guest in a TNG movie. A future TNG reunion movie might want to use her again.

The books are being permitted to stretch in ways that they are usually denied during a show's active production, but the copyright owner reserves the right to ensure that the old status quo is achievable again, should they need to.
 
I hear you. I just don't see it happening. TNG, maybe. VOY? Highly doubtful.

You were typing while I was editing: I had already added:

"Certainly, we've already seen Admiral Janeway as a guest in a TNG movie. A future TNG reunion movie might want to use her again."
 
snakespeare, posting three times in a roll is considered spam on this board. Further, what you posted in post 2 and 3:

As long as she doesn't come back naked though, that's one visualisation I personally could do with out.

SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!

...and Harry Kim is all telling this story like "So me and Janeway were crawling through Jeffries tubes practically all day and the whole time her gross mom butt is like 6 inches from my face, and the worst part...oh god haha. The worst part is that I was actually starting to..."

And then BOOM naked Janeway just comes crashing down in the middle of the table, and ALL HELL just breaks loose

SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!!!!

can be taken as spam. Please don't do it again.

How can you people tolerate misogyny and chide ME for calling them on it? This place... incomprehensible. I will try harder to stay away longer.
 
How can you people tolerate misogyny and chide ME for calling them on it? This place... incomprehensible. I will try harder to stay away longer.

You weren't rebuked for pointing out misogyny, you were simply advised not to do it in a spam-like manner.

Rosalind tolerating misogyny? Not bloody likely.
 
And that shows how strong TrekLit is these days... That never occurred to me at the time I read it, and didn't realize until you mentioned it right now. The new characters that have been added to the various series feel just as part of the crews as those that originated on the show.

This holds true to the additions to Voyager as well. Kirsten Beyer has hit a homerun with Voyager so far and I can't wait to read what she has for us next year.

I respectfully disagree. It just shows how plugged into TrekLit you are. If a new reader picked up the DS9 novel or the VOY one, they would most likely be disappointed to find that none of the characters they see on screen are there. I'd think that PB would be interested in expanding their readership rather than narrowing it by getting so far afield from the onscreen canon. That is, if their goal is to keep selling more books. ;)

I'm sure it's been said, but I doubt that there is a substantially larger number of people coming to the books new from the shows, at this point. How many years have they been off the air? Why should the onscreen material be superceding at this point? Is Voyager even on TV anywhere anymore?


you never know when some one might want something new to read.
and the shows are still in rerun.
tng just went back into once a week primetime rerun on sci fi.

i have heard people say they would like to see some books that place during the time period of the shows.
something that dosnt exist except for the tos line.
 
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