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Should there be a Captain Pike spin-off from DSC?

Should there be a Captain Pike spin-off from DSC?

  • Yes

    Votes: 110 71.0%
  • No

    Votes: 18 11.6%
  • Don't know, let's wait until DSC season 2 is finished

    Votes: 27 17.4%

  • Total voters
    155
To quote Admiral Pressman over a century later, "I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command," (i.e. Section 31)
 
I think Cartwright is the most obvious omission.

It would be cool to see Cartwright. I think Discovery could be a cool way to see Cartwright and other TOS/TOS movie era characters like Robert April, Nogura, Sonak, Garth, Carol Marcus, Lori Ciana, Morrow, Janice Lester, St. John Talbot, McCoy's ex-wife, McCoy's daughter, and Clark Terrell. I also think they could make canon the Will Decker/Matt Decker connection on Discovery as well. It would be cool to see one of the Dax hosts as well.

For others, they could have Shran. I mean how long do Andorians live anyway? And we could see younger versions of Korrd, Chang, Gorkon, Kruge, Kruge's mate, the Klingon Ambassador.
 
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It would be cool to see Cartwright. I think Discovery could be a cool way to see Cartwright and other TOS/TOS movie era characters like Robert April, Nogura, Sonak, Lori Ciana, Morrow, and Clark Terrell. I also think they could make canon the Will Decker/Matt Decker connection on Discovery as well.
I wonder if Mirror Georgiou, with her hatred of aliens carried over from her universe, was involved in the Khitomer conspiracy?
 
Intent to commit genocide is still a crime.

Not if said genocide is never actually carried out, or even attempted.

She recruited Georgiou, created the deception, and put the plan into place.

And then ordered the cancellation of the plan. Cornwell listened to reason, realized she was wrong, and never actually carried out the attack (or even attempted it). That absolves her of all blame.
 
Not if said genocide is never actually carried out, or even attempted.

And then ordered the cancellation of thte plan. Cornwell listened to reason, realized she was wrong, and never actually carried out the attack (or even attempted it). That absolves her of all blame.

No it doesn't. It's called conspiracy to commit murder.

Then Picard and Starfleet Command in the 24th century should also be locked up.

Cool. I can't recall the episode where Picard ordered bombs placed on a planet to eradicate it's population.
 
No it doesn't. It's called conspiracy to commit murder.

But since that conspiracy was never carried out - nor did anyone even TRY to carry it out - it effectively never existed.

Look at it this way. If you think to yourself "I'm going to kill somebody", but you never actually kill them - and you never even try to kill them - have you actually committed a crime? All you've done is think about what you're going to do. Just idle thoughts, nothing more - you haven't actually DONE anything. You haven't even TRIED to do anything. So how can you be accused of a crime?
 
But since that conspiracy was never carried out - nor did anyone even TRY to carry it out - it effectively never existed.

Look at it this way. If you think to yourself "I'm going to kill somebody", but you never actually kill them - and you never even try to kill them - have you actually committed a crime? All you've done is think about what you're going to do. You haven't actually DONE anything. You haven't even TRIED to do anything. So how can you be accused of a crime?


You're comparing a thought crime.... to her actually signing off on a plan to bomb an entire planet. At the very least, Starfleet shouldn't keep her in that position. It shows major moral ambiguity and cowardice... but then again, this is STD.

And it could be considered 'attempted' since the bombs were actually sent to the planet, if memory serves.
 
That makes it a lot worse :(
Why is it worse now, than when Picard wanted to do it?

You're comparing a thought crime.... to her actually signing off on a plan to bomb an entire planet. At the very least, Starfleet shouldn't keep her in that position. It shows major moral ambiguity and cowardice... but then again, this is STD.
Picard and The Borg.

Starfleet has never been perfect.

Stop treating them that way.
 
A Captain Pike spin-off depicting his years commanding the Enterprise is the series I would love to see most from this. The idea gets me excited because there's at least ten years of pre-Kirk USS Enterprise history that we don't know too much about. Would love to see that.
 
I voted yes, because Mount is awesome. OTOH I recognise that if they do have the Big E, and they make her look substantially different on the inside (they half-avoided that by only showing one door and one room), which we know they would, their supposed desire of making this show line up seamlessly with canon goes from almost impossible (as a writer, I know I could probably explain away almost everything visually inconsistent between Cage and Disco even now, it would just be really ****ing awkward, so I presume the writers of this show could) to actually impossible (you can explain the Big E’s exterior quite easily, especially because Menagerie has very few shots of the exterior of Pike’s Big E, but the interior? That would be nigh-unsalvageable). Now, obviously there’s some disagreement about the difference between “visual” canon and “actual” canon, so some people wouldn’t be bothered if they changed it. And I would almost certainly still enjoy a Pike series with radically altered visuals from the original version. But... I dunno, it seems like they’re trying hard to make things match up in a “we can explain this away” kind of way (even going so far as to retcon the Klingons with hair again, hallelujah), so... I dunno.

Rambling post. Sorry.

When we last saw the Enterprise, she was being towed back to spacedock with Pike saying something to the effect there is no estimate on when she'll be back in service. I jokingly said on my Discovery podcast that it would be funny if this repair job turns into a refit that ultimately transforms the Enterprise into how she appears on TOS.
 
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