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Should DS9 have continued on after season 7?

Would you have liked to see DS9 continue(with some minor alterations)?


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Emperor-Tiberius

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I mean, lets speculate here for a moment: What if the decision came early on to NOT end the show with season 7, but end the Dominion War anyway by the end of it. And that Sisko and O'Brien (and family) wouldn't leave the show (thus the Dukat story wouldn't be explored).

Do you think that would've been for the best? That maybe, DS9 could, in season 8, show the Federation in a post-Dominion state, and perhaps by season 9 see the Bajorans join the Federation?

Personally, I'd have loved that... I think it'd have been interesting to see the Bashir and Dax romance blossom more naturally, and Quark actually dealing with Odo leaving the base, and Sisko dealing with the changes of a post-war era as both Captain and a Prophet.

What do you think?
 
Do you mean having another season without changing the writing of season 7, continuing on to season 8 with everything the same? Or season 7 written differently, i.e., the Dominion War not ending or something? The three "successful" trek shows (TNG, DS9, Voyager), all had a seven-season arc. I assume Enterprise would have followed the same route if it had not been canceled.

Personally, if they kept the writing the same, I would have missed too many of the characters who left.
 
Well, what I mean, if season 7 had been the same, but without Sisko and O'Brien leaving after the end of the war, and without Dukat manipulating Opaka the way he did. Just that. Otherwise, Odo would still join the Founders, Worf would still be Ambassador and Bashir and Dax would still have a relationship.
 
You mean Winn, right? Nitpicking of this sort is often meaningless, but I find myself doing it on occasion nonetheless.

Regardless, I enjoyed the Dukat/Winn arc in The Final Chapter. I really did. I know a lot of people were expecting something different, something more. I looked at it from the classic angle of these two characters who have changed over the years but despite any evolution of character, remain antagonists, and they're of two immensely separate worlds but coming together to do something damnable and despicable, and Sisko makes the biggest 'I'm the Emissary, bitch' stance of the entire series.

I might have changed it so that Sisko actually physically perished for good, rather than having the opportunity to return in a newly-assembled mock-up body or whatever the case was supposed to be. I know that's how the writers originally intended it, but Avery Brooks called Ira Steven Behr and see he was uncomfortable with the undertones of a black man abandoning his pregnant wife. I get that, I do. My late grandmother was a civil activist for crying out loud, so I can't contend. For the sake of the story, though, for the 'know nothing but sorrow', it gets a little jarring to me. Is it sorrow that Sisko might not return for six months, or a year, or ten years? If he knows he'll return, then that's not so bad.

I would have included a scene in which Sisko communicates with the Prophets, then, in which he begs them to let him return at some later date, and it goes full-circle to the premiere in his trying to make them understand something. And he reiterates the passage of time, and how crucial this notion is to those of his kind, and he begs them some more, and he swears up and down, left and right that he did hear them when he stood against them and got married anyway, but he's flawed, he's imperfect, he may be their Emissary but he's a human being and human beings do things like this. And at last they yield, but they tell him there is much for him to learn, and it will take some 'time' (there is emphasis as they state it, as though they truly grasp it now) to 'piece him back together' and he will have to accept that.

That would have been savvy.

Now, would I want an eighth season? Yes. Like Nana Visitor, I feel it's a bit selfish to say that, but whatever. I think the show could have gone on. I think TNG ended where it should have, and that's because its 'continuing mission' scenario was perfect for further additions over the years in the form of films... which it got. I think Voyager ended where it should have, because the crew was heading home and that was its one defining mission, and the journey had gone on for a respectable enough length of time. I think DS9 could have lasted another year or two, though, because I don't believe it had fully run its course. Its storytelling style gave it the chance to open up so many threads, and some weren't quite snipped.

I know why it got seven years. For one thing, it was becoming 'the thing to do'. For another, less-cited reason among fan circles, there's the simple matter that DS9 was never as successful as TNG. It was promised six years from the start, and thankfully it was successful enough that there didn't seem to be any regret on the part of its investors. But it was given a seventh year because a.) it was still strong enough, though again, it was never TNG in the US ratings market; b.) the studio respected that there were entirely too many things loose that needed to be finished, and I would imagine this would directly correlate to the idea that VHS and DVD sales would be soured if it didn't get its rightful finish.

Giving it the go-ahead for an eighth season, though? That would have required some stronger ratings, I'd think. Plus I have a feeling after seven years of running two shows at once, there had to be some feeling of looking forward to getting away from that. It takes a lot to do that. A lot of money, a lot of coordination, a lot of effort. I know DS9 and Voyager had almost completely separate staffs, didn't they? So it wasn't quite like the Stargate issue; for three years SG-1 and Atlantis ran side-by-side, and while that was terrific in its own sense, I've read so many interviews with producers and writers about the absolute hell that it was behind-the-scenes.

Giving it an eighth season would have meant the bigwigs would have had to say, 'alright, we gave you a seventh to wrap things up with a bow, but let's go ahead and give you an eighth because... because we love you.' It wasn't going to happen. DS9 wasn't pulling in the ratings that Voyager was, if I remember correctly. Again, it was solid. But it wasn't TNG, and it wasn't even Voyager, because Voyager was so much more accessible to the 'I'm-tuning-this-in-this-week-but-not-next-week' types. So it was kind of a, 'let's give this show a warm sendoff, and then hurry up and get it off the air', or at least that's the sense I get. And then the ratings for The Final Chapter, as the last eleven hours of DS9 are categorized, ended up being quite impressive and some of the series' best, so that's wonderful. But if it wasn't marketed the way it was, as the 'end of an era', the 'climax of a saga', and other assorted things I remember buzzing across my television in 1999... it wouldn't have done that.

1.) Forgive the rant.
2.) Feel free to correct me on any historical errors I made. I'm no pro. I just remember things. And I was only 11 when the show ended, too, so I didn't really document them well.
 
Even though the final episode left a lot of loose ends, season 8 would have been dull (like season 1 IMO). And too congested also.

Seeing how UFP/Romulan relations would pan out post-war, whether Odo could convince the Founders that solids were not all evil, how Cardassia could recover from attempted genocide, etc. is too much and too complex for 26 episodes.
 
I'm happy with the tie-in fiction... actors don't age out of pace with the passing of the storyline, characters don't leave due to contract disputes... etc.
 
^Just remember....

In parallel universes, DS9 ran for 12 seasons, was canceled after 2 seasons, is approaching Gunsmoke's longest running series record, or never happened at all.

Quantum Mirrors are the way to go people, DVD Box sets from across the 8th Dimension would be selling like hotcakes. :techman:


But the early years of the DS9-Relaunch (Trek Lit) were pretty satisfying...
 
DS9 was the richest storytelling environment of any of the five series. There was plenty of gas left in the tank to drive it for at least a couple more seasons.
 
I loved DS9 but it had run its course on television by the end of Season 7. However...the DS9 universe would have made for a terrific post-series movie. I realize that there wasn't a large enough fan base to support a DS9 movie in 1999/2000 when Trek was running out of steam, but one can dream about what might have been...
 
So the Emissary storyline wouldn't be complete, in that case I'd want to see a season 8 only if I was promised that Erzi would die in the first episode of the season.
 
DS9 was a very well done show, but they ended it properly and at the right time. That's not to say they couldn't have done a separate Alpha Quadrant based show that spent a good deal of time in the DS9 area and had recurring appearances by Kira, Bashir, Ezri or Odo, but it as the proper thing to end it then, they built a strong ending and it was well executed. Of course it left you wanting more from it, but that's what good endings do.
 
I like to rage against the machine, and demand more and more from the things I love, but that's a dangerous way to live. So every now and then I take a step back and let good, sensible words dictate terms for a time.

LeadHead is right: of course it left us wanting more, but that's what good endings do. They don't finish something just begging for the bullet, they end something in a sensible manner, at story's peak.

Of course, there are plenty who feel story's peak was another point in the show. But that's just all the more reason for it to end while it was still strong enough that most people still found it at least largely satisfying.

Would I love to have seen one more season? Sure. But good endings leave a taste like that in the mouths of the watchers and the readers.
 
I enjoyed the heck out of the final season but I think that the writers were ready to move on. They told their story and ended it the way they wanted to. I don't think they were too interested in showing a post Dominion War galaxy. I think that the character arcs ended nicely and didn't need to see more.
 
Although I had reservations about DS9, it ended up beeing myy fav trek.

It created an incredibaly ritch tapistry, covering many worlds.

As sutch, it probebly could have gone on. Maybe not as an outrite season 8 but maybe in the form of TV movies. Each covering a certain thread of the larger story. Life after the war , the fate of Bajor, the fall-out for the Dominian after essentialy loosing a war, Bashiers efforts to expose Section 31, the aftermath of Siskos departure to the wormhole, and so on. Perhaps in a similar way to the Worlds of DS9 books.

If they were so inclined they could still do sutch a thing. Ofcourse, they wont, but they could....
 
DS9 told its story by Season 7 and ended it with character and story arcs coming to an end. I personally did not like how some arcs ended ( like Sisko becoming a God , Dukat/Winn/Par Wraiths ) but they did put up a finale and rightly recognized that the story of DS9 can not be extended with lowering quality. DS9 needed a finale before becoming stale and Season 7 provided that more or less........
 
I voted "Yes", but having read the above comments would like to change that to a "No".
 
I would have liked to have seen it continue, although in another format, maybe direct to DVD releases (not really the style at the time unfortunately). It could have taken the approach the Worlds of Deep Space Nine novels did, focusing on several characters and the worlds they came from.
 
DS9 wasn't the kind of show that should have run indefinitely, the various story arcs and character threads needed to be wrapped up, and DS9 was right to do that. Frankly, I feel that more serialised shows need to have a firm end-date in mind rather than being allowed to continue until their inevitable cancellation.

To put it another way: Would you want to read a novel that the author keeps on writing as you are reading it, with no idea when it is going to end?

DS9 had a beginning, a middle and an end, and we should all be grateful for that. Too many shows get cancelled before they get to the pay-off, and those that make it there often continue past the pay-off and live on as a shadow of their former glory.
 
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