Should Americans be required to buy health insurance?

[Gertch]

Is there anything left to this discussion besides personal attacks? The Lefty-Righty thing has gone beyond boring.

Screw the independents!

Better?

 

[TheLonelySquire]

I find it stunning, yet somehow not surprising, that some people here openly wish serious illness on people all the while claiming to be concerned about people's health. I don't care much for your opinions Marc, yet I would never wish illness upon you. Perhaps you ought to rethink your post.

Perhaps you ought to reconsider the condescension in your post.

he should also consider that his attitude is pretty much fuck-you-I've-got-mine.

I've paid for my own health insurance by working for it and planning for it for years. If that's what you mean by your post, thank you.

 

[ST-One]

Perhaps you ought to reconsider the condescension in your post.

he should also consider that his attitude is pretty much fuck-you-I've-got-mine.

I've paid for my own health insurance by working for it and planning for it for years. If that's what you mean by your post, thank you.

That's... very nice.

I too have paid for my health insurance every since I started to work.
The difference between the American and the Germany systems is that it's almost impossible that I'll lose my insurance coverage, even if I were to lose my job and therefore the ability to pay the insurance fees myself.

 

[Gertch]

The difference between the American and the Germany systems is that it's almost impossible that I'll lose my insurance coverage, even if I were to lose my job and therefore the ability to pay the insurance fees myself.

So someone else foots your insurance bill?

In the land of mandatory health insurance in Mass we do have alternatives people can purchase if they lose their jobs (http://www.mahealthconnector.org). Of course there is a free version as well if you qualify.

 

[Squiggy]

The difference between the American and the Germany systems is that it's almost impossible that I'll lose my insurance coverage, even if I were to lose my job and therefore the ability to pay the insurance fees myself.

So someone else foots your insurance bill?

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Perhaps you ought to reconsider the condescension in your post.

he should also consider that his attitude is pretty much fuck-you-I've-got-mine.

I've paid for my own health insurance by working for it and planning for it for years. If that's what you mean by your post, thank you.

Great for you. I worked for a company that had insurance but wouldn't carry me due to multiple issues.

Not only that but I worked close to 50 hours a week in some spurts. Hell I even logged in over 120 hours in two weeks.

I didn't have the luxury of getting insurance because no one would touch me with a ten foot pole.

How can you plan for something that is completely unexpected?

 

[RJDiogenes]

Is there anything left to this discussion besides personal attacks? The Lefty-Righty thing has gone beyond boring.

You can't tell me you're suprised. It's a new Godwin's Law. The longer a political disscussion continues, the probability of it's devolving into a "Left/Right Sucks" fiasco approaches 1.

Not surprising at all, unfortunately. But this Thread has outlived its usefulness if nobody has anything better.

Is there anything left to this discussion besides personal attacks? The Lefty-Righty thing has gone beyond boring.

Screw the independents!

Better?

Much better. Let's gang up on the people who can think for themselves for a change.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

The whole idea of insurance is kind of socialist, isn't it? People pooling their risk; paying a little bit regularly whether they use the service or not, and then distribute the "pot" based on need, where individuals can take out much more than they put in, etc.

Also, I doubt there's anything in the US constitution about insurance, so I have to assume it's un-American anyway.

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ No, there's nothing to prohibit it, and no reason to consider it un-American; just the opposite, since it promotes the general welfare.

And the fact that insurance is socialistic in nature has certainly been pointed out before; it's quite true.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Yeah, I didn't think I was being very original there, just thought I'd mention it.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Heh. I just meant to say that you were right.

 

[ST-One]

The difference between the American and the Germany systems is that it's almost impossible that I'll lose my insurance coverage, even if I were to lose my job and therefore the ability to pay the insurance fees myself.

So someone else foots your insurance bill?

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

Mhmm... let me think about this...


Someone... else?

 

[RyanKCR]

The difference between the American and the Germany systems is that it's almost impossible that I'll lose my insurance coverage, even if I were to lose my job and therefore the ability to pay the insurance fees myself.

So someone else foots your insurance bill?

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

So someone else foots your insurance bill?

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

Mhmm... let me think about this...


Someone... else?

That's not what he asked. Who is paying the 100 bucks, you know, your insurance fees?

 

[Roger Wilco]

He said he has a job, he's paying the $100.

 

[datagal]

So someone else foots your insurance bill?

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

Just how to you think insurance works? If you have a 60,000 dollar surgery but you're only have 100 bucks a pay check taken out...who do you think is picking up the remaining tens of thousands of dollars?

Mhmm... let me think about this...


Someone... else?

That's not what he asked. Who is paying the 100 bucks, you know, your insurance fees?

He is. He's paying a $100 deductable/ paycheck.

Read between the lines.

 

[Yassim]

I still want to know what's different about health care, that I should have to pay my own way, but it's okay for others to pay for my
roads
schools
fire department
police
military
sanitation
unemployment insurance
parks
street lights
etc.

I understand that maybe some of the things on this list seem to be things "people should do for themselves", but why? What differentiates all these services from medical help?

 

[Squiggy]

Which reminds me of this.

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet — which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration — and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ Are you implying that we live in a civilization or something?

 

[sidious618]

Which reminds me of this.

This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

And then I log on to the internet — which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration — and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.

That's awesome. Where'd that come from?

 

[Squiggy]

Teh intarwebs.