Spoilers She-Hulk: Attorney at Law discussion thread

So, I haven't watched it yet. I've liked the show so far, but the reactions I've seen have been....

Extreme.

And considering *this* show, that's saying a lot. I've been "spoiled" on the Ultimate 4th Wall Break in it (which seems on par with similar things they've done in the comics. Haven't characters actually gone into "reality" and talked to artists and Stan Lee?), but it the end of it all.

How was it?

 

Greatest cold opening ever and one of the finest fourth wall breakings.

What else do you need to know until you actually watch it?

 

I was watching the Pulp Fiction episode of Community, and I' thinking "holy shit! Pumpkin is the Abomination!"

I feel like they tried to talk Kevin Feige into a Christoff from the Truman show like cameo, but he punk'd out.

 

Too much fourth wall breaking in this episode. Even though the K.E.V.I.N. stuff was funny, it retrospectively ruined the whole series for me.

 

Hit too close to home, did it?

 

I liked how the series mocked the toxic fanboys. And I must admit the K.E.V.I.N. conclusion was original. But . . . I'm not really impressed by this series overall.

 

I have an image in my head now of Ryan from Pitch Meetings going "Very meta!"

That was very good and very unexpected but I guess perfectly in line with the comics. The 70s homage title sequence was just brilliant!

One annoyance, Wong's name was credited before he showed up. I mean I suppose we'd have guessed what was going to happen when we saw Emil in the cell, but still...

The "You got sucked into another show, didn't you?" was funny.

As was the "See you on the big screen."

"Really?"

"No."

 

Oh, I plan on watching. Just haven't had time yet to sit down and focus on it. Will probably watch it tonight. Just wanted to see what some thoughts were.

 

Was the episode tight?

 

Agreed. Takes you out of the show. Now we have Deadpool coming in to ruin the MCU even more. Just becoming one big joke now. They should leave this level of stupid to the comics...

 

Humor in the MCU?! Self-mocking humor, no less?!

The horror, the horror...

 

I found the toxic fanboys to be the worst aspect of the show. To much of a cliche. Todd should have been a Youtuber as well because it ignores the profit motive behind lots of that behavior. Also it would have hit home if she actually went to far and almost killed one of them.

That would have been the moment when she finally understood Bruce's advice in the pilot. As a Hulk your going to have to deal with people who make you angry and are even bad people but you still have to control the Hulk or you become the monster. Hulking out wasn't enough to even justify her being arrested which made no sense IMO.

 

The MCU is serious stuff!

Sensational She-Hulk trolled the tropes of comics, Marvel Comics, and comic fan obsessions all the time. This show was that whole thing taken to the visual media. The degree of meta-humor anyone can take is subjective but She-Hulk going to this degree is no surprise. Railing the writers? I'm surprised after the blood plot angle complaint she didn't tell the writers they were chucking out more hackneyed easter eggs and tropes than a Dan Slott run.

 

So fucking what if it's "cliche"? That shit still needs to be called out regardless. The reason certain people are squirming so much about She-Hulk's depiction of toxic fanboys is because it hit so close to home. If anything, the show didn't punch hard enough.

And no, Todd didn't need to be a YouTuber to get the point across. This isn't about money. This is about hate and control.

 

It wasn't the worst depiction but it also wasn't clever enough to be all that funny. They had funnier losers elsewhere on the show like the Immortal and the Frog guy. Todd would have been more fun if you had him every episode maybe in a end credit poking holes in the story and complaining about She Hulk in a fake Youtube channel.

Drop the stuff with the blood and secret meeting. The final victory would be him being banned from Youtube or something. The thing is the actor played a much better version of this character, ironically also a character named Todd in Miracle Workers though that season was set in the old west.

 

"It's going to be impossible for Jen to get out of that situation, I imagine."
"No, it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
"How she going to do that then?"
"She's going to leave the show and enter the real world."
"Oh my God!"

 

Like banning Trump from Twitter has solved all the problems he's caused?

 

"So how is the episode end"

"Jan will leave the show and enter the real world and complain the writing needs to be better"

Aren't you the writer?

"whoops"

"whoopsie"

 

The show is a comedy. It's not going to be solving world problem. All the characters need to do is be funny.

 

Some of the reactions in the various Facebook groups are both hilarious and ironic. Don't these fools realize by now that they are the ones writing season 2 scripts for Marvel?